Don't Copy & Paste! by PsiCopMy thanks to a correspondent who emailed me to notify me of this. I’m indebted to him.

I haven’t a clue who Pastor Michael Frisbee DD/DM is. But it seems he knows my work and liked it enough to copy it and use it as his own.

That’s right, we have someone who calls himself a “pastor” who copied passages from one of my own blog articles, did some editing, and added them into one of his own (WebCite cached article). Here are some examples of his copying (I’ve removed hyperlinks and styling, for simplicity).

  • Mine: Christians have always celebrated “Christ’s birthday”: This is just not the case. For the first several centuries of Christianity, the birth of Jesus was not celebrated — at all. There are a number of reasons for this, but perhaps the most significant is that the earliest Christians viewed the celebration of birthdays, by definition, to be a pagan practice. Christians were discouraged from celebrating their own birthdays, so it’s hardly likely they’d have wanted to celebrate Christ’s.

    The Pastor’s: Christians have always celebrated Christ’s Birth. For the first several centuries of Christianity, the birth of Jesus was not celebrated. The earliest Christians viewed the celebration of birthdays, by definition, to be a pagan practice. Christians were discouraged from celebrating their own birthdays, so it is unlikely they celebrated Christ’s.

  • Mine: The customs of Christmas are age-old: This is also not true. We think of things like gift-giving as an old Christmas tradition, but really, it’s not. From the time Christmas was first observed by the Church — intermittently in the 4th century, then more steadily by the middle of the 5th — and on into the Middle Ages, the only Christian activity performed on Christmas, was the celebration of a special Christmas mass — and in the first few centuries these special Christmas masses were attended only by clergy, not the laity.

    The Pastor’s: Christmas customs are centuries old. This is quite false. We think of things like giving gifts as an old Christmas tradition. From the time Christmas was first observed by the Church, intermittently in the 4th century, then more steadily by the middle of the 5th and on into the Middle Ages, the only Christian activity performed on Christmas was the celebration of a special Christmas mass. Within the first few centuries these special Christmas masses were attended only by clergy, not the congregation.

  • Mine: All Christians celebrate Christmas: This claim is absurd on its face. There are, even now, some Christians who refuse to celebrate it, such as Jehovah’s Witnesses. Historically, there have been Christian sects who also did not celebrate it, and they even repressed it where they could (such as the Puritans did in colonial New England). The truth is that the only holiday that all Christian sects have in common, is Easter — but even then they don’t all observe it on the same date. Most sects also observe Pentecost in some way, even some that don’t observe Christmas.

    The Pastor’s: Christmas is celebrated by all Christians. This claim is ridiculous on its face. Even now, there are some Christians who refuse to celebrate it, such as Jehovah’s Witnesses. Historically, there have been Christian sects who also did not celebrate it, and they even repressed it where they could. The truth is that the only holiday that all Christian sects have in common, is Easter. Even then they don’t all observe it on the same date. Most sects also observe Pentecost in some way, even some that don’t observe Christmas.

  • Mine: Christmas has always been celebrated only on December 25: This is not true, not only because not all Christians have designated December 25 as “Christmas,” but because not even all of those who do, actually celebrate that day. Some Christian sects — e.g. the Russian Orthodox Church — assign Christmas to days other than December 25. Other sects celebrate Epiphany, the annual commemoration of the visit of the Magi, in preference to Christmas. This is more common in Orthodox Christianity, but it’s found even among some western Christians, e.g many Hispanic cultures, which celebrate what they call “Three Kings Day.”

    The Pastor’s: Christmas has always been celebrated on December 25. This is not true, not only because not all Christians have designated December 25 as “Christmas,” but because not even all of those who do, actually celebrate that day. Some Christian sects assign Christmas to days other than December 25. Other sects celebrate Epiphany, the annual commemoration of the visit of the Magi, in preference to Christmas. This is more common in Orthodox Christianity, but it’s found even among some western Christians, among many Hispanic cultures for example, which celebrate what they call “Three Kings Day.”

  • Mine: Christmas is the most sacred holiday on the Christian calendar. This is commonly stated, but is absolutely, undeniably, 100% not true. The most sacred holiday for Christians, is Easter, the day which commemorates Jesus’ resurrection. Easter was celebrated long before Christmas ever was, to the point where its dating was a point of contention among Christians a couple centuries before Christmas ever was pegged to the calendar. Easter was observed on varying dates as early as the middle of the 2nd century, and dating it was discussed, for example, at the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE. At that time — as noted already — Christmas was merely a mass that was held annually, and attended only by clergy, only in some places. It was not a “holiday” in any conventional sense, not even in terms of the Greco-Roman culture of that period.

    The Pastor’s: The most sacred holiday on the Christian calendar is Christmas. Undoubtedly this statement is untrue. The most sacred holiday for Christians, is Easter, the day which commemorates Jesus’ resurrection. Easter was celebrated long before Christmas ever was, to the point where its dating was a point of contention among Christians a couple centuries before Christmas was a thought. Easter was observed on varying dates as early as the middle of the 2nd century, and dating it was discussed at the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE. At that time it was noted that Christmas was merely a mass that was held annually, and attended only by clergy, only in some places. It was not a “holiday” in any conventional sense, not even in terms of the Greco-Roman culture of that period.

Now, I originally added a comment to the pastor’s blog article requesting credit for my “contribution” to his blog post. A couple of anonymous commenters replied to that, saying my link didn’t work (even though it clearly does), along with denials of the copying that took place (some of it lifted as-is, some of it mildly edited), and the truly fucking laughable claim that I was just trying to “use” the Pastor’s blog post to bring traffic to my own.

Unfortunately for these defenders of the Pastor, there clearly has been plagiarism here, and saying the Pastor is “honest” does nothing to change that. It’s a fact.

I wonder if Pastor Michael Frisbee has the fortitude to come here, admit what he did, apologize for it, then edit his blog post to give me credit. I don’t think this is too much to ask — even if his anonymous defenders think I haven’t been wronged. Really, it’s not up to them to decide.

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  • Donald

    bahaha!! I thought I was the only one who noticed that Michael Frisbie plagiarsed his article… LMAO!!!!

    • I believe you were the one who clued me in … thanks for that!

    • Oh, and BTW, I assume you used a plagiarism checker on "Pastor" Frisbee's material, in order to find me?

    • ryan

      this guy is a fraud only looking to get famous through others hard work and has been caught in so many lies!

  • Miranda

    you need to check out David Rountree- WORMHOLE theory… who did the exact same thing… copied and pasted from WIKIPEDIA! LMAO… and other sources

  • kitty

    @miranda, you didn't go to college did you? LOL

    Wormhole theory have been suggested since Sir Issac Newton (look it up genius) hundreds and thousands of scientists elaborate and write about Newtonian wormhole theory

    "There is a mouth at each of the two ends of the wormhole. Newtonian laws of physics: The laws of physics, built on Newton's conception of space and time,The laws of physics, built on Newton's conception of space and time as absolute, which were the centerpiece of 19th-century thinking about the Universe."

    Look it up (if you can) Miranda/moron, NOVA -timespeak

    • TammyLynn

      Kitty- You can't read, can you? BHAHAAHAHAHA.

      Miranda said that David Rountree COPIED AND PASTED the ENTIRE ARTICLE from WIKIPEDIA.

      You didn't go to college did you? The topic of conversation is "PLAGIARISM."

    • Tony from NJ

      David can only do so much he is busy hiding his stolen valor and fake college degrees.

  • Bea

    How Christian of him . . .

    They have been stealing for thousands of years . . . land mostly.

  • Angela

    I got to know this guy via FB . He was part of a Fb group I am a member of. I friended him and man did I regret that. This guy is a real peice of work. We had our first debate about wether or not fantasy books like Harry Potter should be banned because they are occult. ( I told him If he didn't want the Bible banned then don't advocate banning books in general) He claims to be a Demonologist and that he can drive demons from your house. He is intolerant of other religions, beliefs or views. When you argue with him he is condesending and just plain mean. The scary thing is there are folks out there that follow this guy. this is his FB demon hunting site http://www.facebook.com/ArchangelParanormal?ref=t… He sells tickets to classes about how to be a junior demon hunter or some such foolishness.

  • An actual Pastor

    If you look here: http://www.skillpages.com/pastor-michael.frisbee you can see he has had some educational connection to the Universal Life church. It corresponds to his receiving his doctorates. Of course the Universal Life monastery is not accredited and he touts his degrees as real ones. His church website lists no physical building address (only a p.o. box) and there are no services listed only his blog talk shows. On his church site and on his blog( the paranormal christian) he asks for donations. His main "ministry" is giving demonology seminars for which he charges $100.00. He claims to be ordained but never produces any institution that has ordained him or any paper work. I am a minister myself and his theology is very questionable. He is a fraud. I have known real clergy who deal with exorcism and most do not promote themselves as exorcists. Those that do never take money for the service. He is another Bishop Long from "Ghost Adventures", the self proclaimed Bishop with no real theological training to speak of who runs his denomination from another church's Sunday school room that he rents for a few hundred $ a month. Frisbee is now trying to make himself look mainstream by hooking up with Rev. Mark Hunneman, a former Presbyterian minister who wrote a book about Ghosts a few years ago. They write the new blog together and are also hosted as legit by the caravan website http://www.wix.com/caravancommunity/churches#!vst… . His new Facebook sites are https://www.facebook.com/pastorfrisbee and https://www.facebook.com/TheParanormalChristian he recently tried to rally people to his cause…getting 500 followers to his blog. I think his days are numbered. At least i hope so!

    • It would not surprise me at all to find that Mr Frisbee's credentials are from unaccredited "schools" & the Universal Life Church. I only identified him as a "pastor" because he calls himself one. It's sad that people are willing to pay him $100 a pop to attend his "seminars."

      • An actual Pastor

        after this posting he has removed his info from skillpages. I wonder why he would do that?

        He has removed "pastor" from his Facebook page (instead he is now a "deliverance minister") I just wonder why his blog, internet radio and exorcism partner Rev. Mark Hunneman is involved with such a fake? He is a well known scam artist and flip flopping wanna be politician in his home town. Here is a link, it is a long read and some of the people are kind of merciless on Frisbee, but if you take time to read through it all there are some stunning revelations about Mr. Frisbee http://www.topix.com/forum/city/douglasville-ga/T

        • Hmm. Some entertaining reading there. Especially the Patch piece he wrote which was linked on that Topix page. He claims to have been a "black arts adept" (whatever that is) who nevertheless found God and became a preacher. Sounds more than a little bit like Mike Warnke, a claimed "Satanic high priest" who likewise found God and started a ministry. Warnke's problem is, his claims were lies, and the Christian magazine Cornerstone ran an expose of him in the early 90s. But this revelation turned out to be a mere bump in the road for Warnke … he remains a pastor with a church still standing behind him.

          • An actual Pastor

            Funny, Frisbee's "radio"show: http://www.theparanormalchristian.com/ has as its heading "Speaking out on the Truth regarding the paranormal. Main topics will be Christian demonology, spiritual warfare, and exposing occult fraud within the paranormal." Isn't that ironic?

          • Ironic, yes … but perhaps appropriate. "Pastor" Frisbee is, after all, a demonstrable expert in occult deception. 😉

    • Mark Hunnemann

      My name is Rev. Mark Hunnemann ( ordained Presbyterian minister.) and it grieves me to learn of these things….As of tonight, I am disconnecting myself from Frisbee in ever way.. , I am a minister in good standing in the AR Presbyterian denomination–with a full-time, non-pastoral ministry,and I do not wish to be found guilty by association. Since my name was mentioned, I felt it was appropriate.to make this statement..

      • Rev Hunnemann, thanks for coming here and letting us know. I appreciate that at least one person close to (er, formerly close to) "Pastor" Frisbee is acknowledging what he did.

  • noneya business

    Frisbee,is a criminal always has been this nut job would steal from his Mother..He has been /is a loser,liar,criminal element.He couldn't even keep a job as a night clerk at a local Motel..He is a failure in life..Just waiting to see what he comes up with next.Oh Frisbee what happened to the cookbook you claimed to have written??? Guess it didn't make it huh..Well nothing you have attempted to do has worked so waiting with baited breath to see what else you dream up..
    What happened you said a year ago you were moving another lie.Remember "FATBOY" Hell is open 24 hours a day..Creeper!!!

  • Anon

    I looked at the Caravan website you mentioned and found that Frisbee is no longer listed with the organization.

    Look for yourself: http://www.wix.com/caravancommunity/churches#!com

  • To Whom it may Concern:

    Michael Frisbee resigned his positions with The Paranormal Church and Caravan Community Churches on May 1, 2012.

    Rev. Mark Hunnemann is still a valued member of both organizations.

    Sincerely,

    Rev. Darrell Gene Motal

    • Rev Motal, as with Rev Hunnemann, I appreciate you coming here and letting us know. My thanks to both of you.

  • Jul 22, 2011

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    Polly Baker wrote:
    Maybe GAP has truly found his calling. Let's all hope so. Let's just agree to revisit this thread if he should fail at this and has reinvented himself again.

    Folks – I'm not trying to reinvent myself, I'm not changing professions.

    I'm still working doing the graphic design and web content, I'm still providing home care for the elderly lady. I'm not looking to make the ministry my new job. Just something a feel the Lord wants me to do as a part of my life instead of politics.

    I'm not using it to get any tax breaks, not using to run any scams, just seeking to share the Word of God. I'm trying to cleanse my life and walk a better path.

    For those of you accusing me of running scams – show proof of any scam I ran, monies I have taken, charges presented against me for fraud.

    As for the GIT thing – I was an employee. When I got wind that something was wrong, I quit my job there, a full 10 months before the business was closed and the owners Swainson Hawke and Elliot James embezzled all that money. The Kentucky Attorney General has Hawke now in a jail cell awaiting trial. The third owner had left the business almost 2 years before it was closed, and is going to be a witness for the prosecution from my understanding.

    I'm not looking for anyone's blessing on this – I just want to be left alone in peace. I wan't even the one that post that I was going to start a ministry. But people were sure fast to attck my doing so.

    he reccently just found god and he tells the truth here and lies everywhere else

    • Looks like this somehow drift in from the Topix thread. Did you intend to post it here, or there? Or maybe both? Not a problem, just wondering …

  • angela

    Frisbee has NO formal theological training- he has suddenly listed a Doctor of Divinity and a Doctor of Theology degree. Investigation shows it is from the Universal Life Church, a non accredited internet site famous for online ordination (whose ministers have been banned from performing weddings and baptism in many states. He claims to have been ordained in 1994, but has yet to produce any legal document to prove this.

    on his facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pastorfrisbee ) and a group page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/3069193260229... ) he refers to sermons given at his church, however he has no physical church but just a P.O. Box (https://sites.google.com/site/libertygospelmi... )

    He started offering exorcism seminars at over $100 a pop and asks for money on all of his websites for his "ministry". Again with no formal training or church sanctioning as an exorcist or counselor. His claim to psychological know how is that he has had many family members with mental illness and he knows how to "spot it". He is aggressively doing self promotion on Facebook and hopes to have a large group of "exorcists" that he can oversee.

    Lastly, he is accused of being a plagiarizer (https://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2012/01/04... )which further leads the question as to the authenticity of his "sermons".

    I believe he is a fraud at the least and it would seem he has psych issues himself. If he is operating a counseling operation without license there can be legal implications. If he does not have malpractice insurance he opens himself up to a multitude of lawsuits.

  • lonnie

    that came from the thread he wrote it him self and he clearly stated him self he just found god and this was back in 2011… he has been lying to everyone about his past, he also had law suites against him for another scam too! hes a true con artist and hes fooling many people! heres another one for you.Frisbee has NO formal theological training- he has suddenly listed a Doctor of Divinity and a Doctor of Theology degree. Investigation shows it is from the Universal Life Church, a non accredited internet site famous for online ordination (whose ministers have been banned from performing weddings and baptism in many states. He claims to have been ordained in 1994, but has yet to produce any legal document to prove this.

    on his facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pastorfrisbee ) and a group page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/3069193260229... ) he refers to sermons given at his church, however he has no physical church but just a P.O. Box (https://sites.google.com/site/libertygospelmi... )

    He started offering exorcism seminars at over $100 a pop and asks for money on all of his websites for his "ministry". Again with no formal training or church sanctioning as an exorcist or counselor. His claim to psychological know how is that he has had many family members with mental illness and he knows how to "spot it". He is aggressively doing self promotion on Facebook and hopes to have a large group of "exorcists" that he can oversee.

    Lastly, he is accused of being a plagiarizer (https://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2012/01/04... )which further leads the question as to the authenticity of his "sermons".

    I believe he is a fraud at the least and it would seem he has psych issues himself. If he is operating a counseling operation without license there can be legal implications. If he does not have malpractice insurance he opens himself up to a multitude of lawsuits.

  • lonnie

    that came from the thread he wrote it him self and he clearly stated him self he just found god and this was back in 2011… he has been lying to everyone about his past, he also had law suites against him for another scam too! hes a true con artist and hes fooling many people! heres another one for you.Frisbee has NO formal theological training- he has suddenly listed a Doctor of Divinity and a Doctor of Theology degree. Investigation shows it is from the Universal Life Church, a non accredited internet site famous for online ordination (whose ministers have been banned from performing weddings and baptism in many states. He claims to have been ordained in 1994, but has yet to produce any legal document to prove this.

  • vinniekyle

    This is heart breaking to me. I am going thru some true issues related to demonic energies on my land. I contacted this guy out of faith, and belief he would be able to help me. Now I am second guessing it. I guess the search will continue….SUCKS for me.

    • Hi there, sorry to have thrown cold water on your effort. All the information I've been able to gather about "Pastor Michael Frisbee" is … how can I say it? … less than complimentary. As you can see in other comments above, even his former associates have disavowed him.

    • Jeff

      Contact me. I'd like to share some understanding about your situation. And by the way, God would not let your request go unanswered.

      • Please use my Contact Me page to get hold of me. It’s the best way to reach me personally. As for whether or not God would let my request go unanswered, it certainly appears he has. At least, he hasn’t responded yet.