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		<description><![CDATA[The answer to the question &#8220;Is Obama ushering in the apocalypse?, according to Tim Lahaye &#8212; the evangelical minister and co-author of the vastly lucrative Left Behind publishing empire &#8212; is an unequivocal &#8220;yes.&#8221; He actually said that to Mike Huckabee on his Fox News show. Huff has the story, along with supporting video (WebCite [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/q0woOgxBYEoNqHt1Pba58Q"><img alt="Four Horsemen of Apocalypse (1887), Viktor Mikhailovich Vasnetsov (1848-1926)" src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_PbsutaNEhpQ/SW0pvGrwYnI/AAAAAAAAGic/qNAr_VCS5Sc/Vasnetov+-+Four+Horsemen+of+Apocalypse+(1887)++2320x1451i.jpg" title="Four Horsemen of Apocalypse (1887), Viktor Mikhailovich Vasnetsov (1848-1926)" align="right" width="240" height="160" /></a>The answer to the question &#8220;Is Obama ushering in the apocalypse?, according to <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/tim-lahaye">Tim Lahaye</a> &#8212; the evangelical minister and co-author of the vastly lucrative <em>Left Behind</em> publishing empire &#8212; is an unequivocal &#8220;yes.&#8221; He actually said that to Mike Huckabee on his Fox News show. <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/28/tim-lahaye-evangelical-ch_n_662621.html">Huff has the story, along with</a> supporting video (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rZZyvG69">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Evangelical Christian minister Tim LaHaye says that the policy initiatives put forth by the Obama administration are bringing the country &#8220;closer to the apocalypse.&#8221; &#8230;
<p>&#8220;Our present president doesn&#8217;t seem to get it,&#8221; LaHaye explained. &#8220;He doesn&#8217;t understand that some of the things he&#8217;s introducing that many of us call &#8216;raw socialism&#8217; &#8212; it&#8217;s a different name, but it&#8217;s essentially government control and government domination of everything.&#8221;
<p>The evangelical voice said of the political platform maintained by the Obama administration, &#8220;It&#8217;s going to work against our country and bringing us closer to the apocalypse.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The video of this brilliant exchange of remarkable evangelical Christian thinking <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1or5mQFz6Pc">is available on Youtube</a>:
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<p>Note that LayHaye&#8217;s claim is similar to &#8212; although not quite identical with &#8212; Georgia Congressional candidate Ed Martin&#8217;s claim that <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/07/18/obama-prevents-people-from-being-christian/">Obama&#8217;s politics prevents people from getting salvation through Christ</a>. So, as insane and outrageous as this claim may be, it doesn&#8217;t really surprise me that someone like LaHaye said it. What&#8217;s surprising is that things like this aren&#8217;t being said more often than they are.
<p>Also, does anyone <em>seriously</em> think that Tim &#8220;Left Behind&#8221; LaHaye and ex-Governor Shucksabee are somehow <em>not</em> going to agree we&#8217;re in the throes of &#8220;the End Times&#8221; right now?
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://forums.delphiforums.com/skepticheretic/messages?msg=1215.1"><strong>Mark at</strong> Skeptics &amp; Heretics Forum</a> on Delphi Forums.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/q0woOgxBYEoNqHt1Pba58Q"><strong>Ms. Max</strong></a>.</p>

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		<description><![CDATA[Mary and Jesus have manifested, together, in Granbury TX. They showed up in the form of a pair of rocks discovered by one Stephanie Madden. A report on this amazing discovery is courtesy of KTVT-TV in Dallas (WebCite cached article): To Stephanie Madden of Granbury, a pair of ordinary rocks are as precious as rubies. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6717689n"><img align="right" src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/madonna-in-texas-1.jpg" alt="The Madonna rocks in Granbury TX" title="The Madonna rocks in Granbury TX" width="240" height="154" class="size-full wp-image-2977" /></a>Mary and Jesus have manifested, together, in Granbury TX. They showed up in the form of a pair of rocks discovered by one Stephanie Madden. <a href="http://cbs11tv.com/religion/stephanie.madden.granbury.2.1826358.html">A report on this amazing discovery is</a> courtesy of KTVT-TV in Dallas (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rY7vkgXL">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>To Stephanie Madden of Granbury, a pair of ordinary rocks are as precious as rubies. &#8230;
<p>When Madden first spotted the stones on the ground in Granbury, she didn&#8217;t think much about it, but a closer look was all the confirmation she needed.
<p>&#8220;It was like the closer I got to God the more I saw him in things,&#8221; she said, &#8220;That looks like Mary holding baby Jesus to me.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>There is an accompanying <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6717689n">video provided by CBS News</a>:
<div align="center"><embed src="http://cnettv.cnet.com/av/video/cbsnews/atlantis2/cbsnews_player_embed.swf" scale="noscale" salign="lt" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" background="#333333" width="425" height="279" allowFullScreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" FlashVars="si=254&#038;uvpc=http://cnettv.cnet.com/av/video/cbsnews/atlantis2/uvp_cbsnews.xml&#038;contentType=videoId&#038;contentValue=50090848&#038;ccEnabled=false&amp;hdEnabled=false&#038;fsEnabled=true&#038;shareEnabled=false&#038;dlEnabled=false&#038;subEnabled=false&#038;playlistDisplay=none&#038;playlistType=none&#038;playerWidth=425&#038;playerHeight=239&#038;vidWidth=425&#038;vidHeight=239&#038;autoplay=false&#038;bbuttonDisplay=none&#038;playOverlayText=PLAY%20CBS%20NEWS%20VIDEO&#038;refreshMpuEnabled=true&#038;shareUrl=http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6717689n&#038;adEngine=dart&#038;adCallTemplate=http%3A//www.cbs.com/thunder/ad.doubleclick.net/adx/request.php%3F/can/news/%7B%25videoNode%7D%3Bsite%3Dnews%3Bshow%3D%7B%25videoNode%7D%3Bfeat%3D%7B%25videoNode%7D%3B%7B%25videoFeatPath%7Dpartner%3Dnews%3Blvid%3D%7B%25videoId%7D%3Boutlet%3DCBS+Production%3BnoAd%3D%7B%25videoNoAd%7D%3Btype%3Dros%3Bformat%3DFLV%3Bpos%3D%7B%25posDart%7D%3Bsz%3D320x240%3Bord%3D%7B%25random%7D%3B&#038;adPreroll=true&#038;adPrerollType=PreContent&#038;adPrerollValue=1" /></div>
<p>The video even includes a helpful graphic overlay to show the resemblance &#8230; just in case you (like me) can&#8217;t manage to see a &#8220;madonna&#8221; in these rocks:
<div align="center"<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6717689n"><img src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/madonna-in-texas-2.jpg" alt="Madonna Rocks in Texas - helpful overlay courtesy of CBS News" title="Madonna Rocks in Texas - helpful overlay courtesy of CBS News" width="450" height="304" class="size-full wp-image-2978" /></a></div>
<p>Ms Madden ostensibly concedes this is a &#8220;coincidence,&#8221; but just as quickly declares that it <em>cannot</em> be one &#8212; for reasons that remain unclear, even though she thinks she explained them:<br />
<blockquote>
<p>The resemblance she admits could be a mere coincidence.
<p>&#8220;Coincidence is when God chooses to remain anonymous,&#8221; she explained, &#8220;In the bible it says that people who do believe, will see.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I simply cannot make sense of her claim that &#8220;coincidence is when God chooses to remain anonymous.&#8221; It&#8217;s gibberish. Completely nonsensical.
<p>She&#8217;s all the more convinced her rocks are divine, because someone else pointed out a Biblical connection to her:<br />
<blockquote>
<p>&#8220;I was showing them to people at church Sunday morning and one of the members said &#8216;hey do you know in the bible it says, in Luke 19:40, &#8216;If my people become silent that even the rocks will cry out&#8217;.&#8221; She said, &#8220;That hit me as confirmation that I&#8217;m supposed to say something.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, that does it, I guess. For her, anyway.
<p>Folks, there&#8217;s nothing to see here. Literally! This is merely another case of <a href="http://www.skepdic.com/pareidol.html"><em>pareidolia</em></a>, a well-known phenomenon of psychology in which the brain tries to make sense of something vague or amorphous. It&#8217;s no different from the other examples of pareidolia I&#8217;ve already blogged about &#8230; such as <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/03/21/because-you-know-300-people-cant-be-wrong/">the Virgin Mary in a door</a> or <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2008/10/05/the-magic-window/">between panes of a window</a> or <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2009/04/12/the-virgin-mary-is-everywhere/">in a chunk of wood</a>, or <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2009/11/28/jesus-on-an-iron/">Jesus on a laundry iron</a>, or <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2009/12/09/holy-calf/">a cross on a calf&#8217;s head</a>. It&#8217;s also no different from <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4034787.stm">the &#8220;grilled cheese Virgin Mary&#8221;</a> that made headlines a few years ago (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rY9Pnb81">cached</a>). So yes, Ms Madden, this <em>is</em> &#8220;coincidence&#8221; and nothing more, no matter how much you might wish it to be otherwise.
<p>Photo credits: Screen shots from <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6717689n">CBS News</a>.</p>

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		<title>TN Lt Gov Supports Freedom Of Religion, Except For Muslims</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The lieutenant governor of Tennessee, Ron Ramsey, is trailing in his primary bid for the Republican nomination for governor of his state. So what did he do to get some electoral support in the primary? He appealed to the Tea Partiers and the Religious Right by throwing Muslims under the bus. I found about this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><a href="http://teamronramsey.com/about"><img src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/ramseybiophoto.jpg" alt="TN Lt Gov. Ron Ramsey" title="TN Lt Gov. Ron Ramsey" width="182" height="251" class="size-full wp-image-2967" align="right" /></a>The lieutenant governor of Tennessee, Ron Ramsey, is trailing in his primary bid for the Republican nomination for governor of his state. So what did he do to get some electoral support in the primary? He appealed to the Tea Partiers and the Religious Right by throwing Muslims under the bus. I found about this this story <a href="http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/27/tennessee-official-says-islam-may-be-a-cult/">from the New York Times Lede blog</a>, based on a story originally reported by other outlets (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rXlzLHpN">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Mr. Ramsey, who hopes to win the Republican nomination for governor in a primary next month with support from Tea Party activists, was asked by a constituent this month to explain his position on the “threat that’s invading our country from the Muslims.” As Jeff Woods of The Nashville Scene <a href="http://www.nashvillescene.com/pitw/archives/2010/07/16/ramsey-argues-freedom-of-religion-doesnt-apply-to-muslims">reported</a> [<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rXnvWz8F">cached</a>], a tape of the exchange posted online shows the lieutenant governor responding, “I’m all about freedom of religion,” before casting doubt on Islam’s credentials as a religion by saying:<br />
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<p>You could even argue whether being a Muslim is actually a religion or is it a nationality, way of life or cult, whatever you want to call it.</p></blockquote>
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<p>A video of this lunatic&#8217;s idiocy <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BkdofiIm0g">is available on YouTube</a>:
<p align="center"><object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/2BkdofiIm0g&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1?rel=0"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/2BkdofiIm0g&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1?rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object></p>
<p>Mr Ramsey tried to &#8220;clarify&#8221; his remarks, but only succeeded in making a merely-stupid comment into an outright-<em>hypocritical</em> one:<br />
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<p>On Monday, Mr. Ramsey <a href="http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/07/tennessee-lt-gov-religious-freedom-doesnt-count-if-youre-muslim-video.php">responded</a> [<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rXmX3t03">cached</a>] to a request for comment from Evan McMorris-Santoro of Talking Points Memo by writing in an e-mail message, “My concern is that far too much of Islam has come to resemble a violent political philosophy more than peace-loving religion.”</p></blockquote>
<p>The hypocrisy, of course, is that Christianity in the United States <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-right">is every bit as &#8220;political&#8221;</a> as any other politically-oriented religion anywhere in the world &#8230; and some of those politically-motivated Christians <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/assassination-of-george-tiller">are quite violent about it</a>. Mr Ramsey just indicted himself and his own religion, in his attempt to justify taking away the religious freedom of the practitioners of another.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://teamronramsey.com/about">Ramsey for Governor Web site</a>.</p>

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		<title>CNN, The Ted Haggard P.R. Machine</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 03:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PsiCop</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[CNN has a relatively new religion blog. Maybe you&#8217;ve heard of it &#8230; but more likely, you haven&#8217;t. If not, don&#8217;t worry &#8212; you aren&#8217;t missing much. The kind of pablum this blog conveys is hardly worth your notice, and I mean that regardless of what your own religious viewpoint (if any) is. It&#8217;s just [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Insipid-Beyond-Belief.jpg"><img src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Insipid-Beyond-Belief.jpg" alt="CNN Insipid Beyond Belief blog!" title="CNN Insipid Beyond Belief blog!" width="240" height="139" class="size-full wp-image-2961" align="right" /></a>CNN has <a href="http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/">a relatively new religion blog</a>. Maybe you&#8217;ve heard of it &#8230; but more likely, you haven&#8217;t. If not, don&#8217;t worry &#8212; you aren&#8217;t missing much. The kind of pablum this blog conveys is hardly worth your notice, and I mean that regardless of what your own religious viewpoint (if any) is. It&#8217;s just not that great.
<p>An example of how deficient this blog is, is in its coverage of the once-disgraced but now proud-to-have-had-a-scandalous-past-because-it-makes-me-great evangelical preacher, <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/ted-haggard">Ted Haggard</a> (a used-car-salesman-type creepy character I most recently <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/06/08/shamelessness-personified/">blogged about here</a>). In the space of just four days, this month, the CNN Belief blog has posted two stories on <a href="http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/21/haggard-back-in-the-pulpit/">Ted Haggard: Haggard back in the pulpit</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rWc6Kv1B">cached</a>) and <a href="http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/25/ted-haggards-new-church-is-growing/">Status report: Ted Haggard&#8217;s new church</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rWcAUyPK">cached</a>). This is after having posted some blathering tripe about him a month ago (<a href="http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/11/ted-haggard-resurrected/">Ted Haggard, Resurrected</a>; <a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rWcD11qx">cached</a>) courtesy of <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/stephen-prothero">Stephen Prothero</a>, a religion professor.
<p>What&#8217;s really amazing, if you pay close attention to these &#8220;reports&#8221; about the &#8220;resurrected Ted&#8217;s&#8221; incredible success, is that <em>it&#8217;s all self-reported</em>. That&#8217;s right. We only have <em>Pastor Ted&#8217;s word</em> on how great he&#8217;s doing and how great he is. There is no &#8220;investigation&#8221; here, none of the cutting-edge, incisive, insightful and analytical journalism one (presumably) expects of CNN.
<p>Clearly CNN&#8217;s new &#8220;Belief Blog&#8221; is little more than a P.R. engine for Pastor Ted &#8220;I&#8217;m-not-gay-even-if-I-hired-gay-prostitutes-to-service-me&#8221; Haggard. Then again, CNN hooked up with Stephen Prothero, who&#8217;s on the record as demanding mandatory Bible classes in public schools.
<p>Yeah. These are the kinds of people CNN is now carrying water for. An unrepentant cretin, and a militant Christian.
<p>I guess we can chalk this one up as yet another <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/journalism-fail/">journalism fail</a>. Sigh.</p>

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		<title>Will Christ Return On May 21, 2011?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harold Camping, a presumed Bible scholar who runs a network of Christian radio stations, claims he knows when the Second Coming of Christ will take place: May 21, 2011. He and his ministry are so confident in that prediction that they&#8217;ve taken out bench advertisements around the country to warn people of it. Lauri Lebo [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/sis/131202143/"><img align="right" alt="Time is running out!" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/46/131202143_5e76dc06da.jpg" title="Time is running out!" width="240" height="177" /></a>Harold Camping, a presumed Bible scholar who runs a network of Christian radio stations, claims he knows when the Second Coming of Christ will take place: May 21, 2011. He and his ministry are so confident in that prediction that they&#8217;ve taken out bench advertisements around the country to warn people of it. <a href="http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/laurilebo/3029/rapture_coming,_mark_your_calendars/">Lauri Lebo at Religion Dispatches has the</a> story (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rWP8Melb">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>A friend snapped this photo on the way to work in Colorado Springs:
<p align="center"><a href="http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/laurilebo/3029/rapture_coming,_mark_your_calendars/"><img src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/rapturebench.jpg" alt="Date of rapture announcement (2011-05-21)" title="Date of rapture announcement (2011-05-21)" width="380" height="270" class="size-full wp-image-2951" /></a>
<p>Apparently, these pictures have been popping up around the country, with sightings from Erie to Waco to the Bay Area.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lebo points out that Camping&#8217;s past predictions have not panned out too well:<br />
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<p>This is not the first time Camping has predicted Judgment Day:<br />
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<p>On Sept. 6, 1994, dozens of Camping’s believers gathered inside Alameda’s Veterans Memorial Building to await the return of Christ, an event Camping had promised for two years. Followers dressed children in their Sunday best and held Bibles open-faced toward heaven.</p></blockquote>
<p>But the world did not end. Camping allowed that he may have made a mathematical error.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.wecanknow.com/">Camping&#8217;s ministry&#8217;s Web site</a> also proudly announces the May 2011 date (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rWPT4f2Z">cached</a>), and he appears to want to beat the New Agers and their &#8220;Mayan prophecy 2012 doomsday&#8221; at their own game:<br />
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<p>We are living at a time when mankind seems to sense that the end of all things is very near. Just about everyone has a theory as to how the world is threatened and when that end might come. The media and the Internet are full of doomsday speculations concerning the New Age &#8220;Mayan Calendar&#8221; and the year 2012.</p></blockquote>
<p>The crap about the Mayans predicting the end of the universe in December of 2012 is complete bullshit, <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2009/10/13/2012-wont-be-the-end/">as I&#8217;ve already blogged</a>. The Mayans themselves couldn&#8217;t even predict the coming collapse of their own civilization, <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/classic-maya-collapse">which happened around 900 CE</a>, so one can hardly expect them to have been any more accurate about the end of the universe.
<p>Camping and his followers claim he&#8217;s some sort of Biblical scholar, however, he &#8212; and they &#8212; appear not to have read this important verse, concerning the coming of the Son of Man:<br />
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<p>But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2024:36&#038;version=NASB">Matthew 24:36</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>Thus, the Second Coming <em>cannot</em> be predicted. Anyone who says s/he knows &#8220;the day&#8221; or &#8220;the hour&#8221; it will happen, <em>can <strong>only</strong> be <strong>lying</strong></em>, because only &#8220;the Father&#8221; knows when it is. Jesus admits <em>even he</em> does not know when it will be! It also means the name of Camping&#8217;s Web site &#8212; &#8220;We Can Know&#8221; &#8212; runs contrary to scripture.
<p>Not only is this not the first failed prediction Camping has made, the history of Christianity is littered with past failed predictions of when &#8220;the End&#8221; was supposed to have come &#8212; but didn&#8217;t. James &#8220;the Amazing&#8221; Randi compiled a list of some of these, and they comprise <a href="http://www.randi.org/encyclopedia/appendix3.html">Appendix 3</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rWQOhqjW">cached</a>) of his <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0312151195?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=antiideology-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0312151195"><em>Encyclopedia of Claims, Frauds, and Hoaxes of the Occult and Supernatural</em></a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=antiideology-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0312151195" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> (<a href="http://www.randi.org/encyclopedia/">which is available online for free</a>). &#8220;End of the world&#8221; predictions are common and apparently easy to rationalize away when they fail. My guess is that, on May 22, 2011, Harold Camping will be rationalizing away the failure of his Jesus to show up and vacuum the Christians off the surface of the planet.
<p>Top photo credit: <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/sis/131202143/"><strong>Sister72</strong></a>. Middle photo credit: <a href="http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/laurilebo/3029/rapture_coming,_mark_your_calendars/">Religion Dispatches</a>.</p>

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		<description><![CDATA[When one considers the abuses of the Christian church, one invariably thinks of things like the Inquisitions or the Crusades. While these are still valid examples of what can go wrong with Christianity when people get carried away with it, they have unfortunately become too clich&#233; to get people&#8217;s attention any more. When you say [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/35034349172@N01/2859877260"><img alt="St Cyril of Alexandria" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/2859877260_e5b37d1346.jpg" title="St Cyril of Alexandria" width="220" height="294" align="right" /></a>When one considers the abuses of the Christian church, one invariably thinks of things like the <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/inquisition">Inquisitions</a> or the <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/crusade">Crusades</a>. While these are still valid examples of what can go wrong with Christianity when people get carried away with it, they have unfortunately become too clich&eacute; to get people&#8217;s attention any more. When you say the words &#8220;Inquisition&#8221; or &#8220;Crusades,&#8221; Christians stop listening. They&#8217;re not interested in hearing anything about these, and will not accept that they&#8217;re an object lesson on their religion.
<p>This means other examples of Christianity&#8217;s moral failures are needed. While Christians won&#8217;t necessarily like to hear these, either, they&#8217;re different enough from the clich&eacute;s to at least get them to listen for a little while before they turn their ears off. I intend to bring up some of these in a series of posts I&#8217;ll facetiously call &#8220;Great Christians&#8221; or &#8220;Great Moments in Christianity.&#8221;
<p>Early Christians &#8212; especially during the period of the great <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/christology">Christological</a> controversies of the 4th, 5th and 6th centuries &#8212; were a truly contentious bunch. Among the most vicious of the contenders was <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/cyril-of-alexandria">Cyril</a>, Patriarch of Alexandria. He was responsible for many events in Christian history; he proved the most influential Christian prince of his time, in spite of his vicious and unethical tactics. He is, to this day, revered as a saint by all Christian churches &#8212; even though he was no &#8220;saint&#8221; at all.
<p>His Machiavellian nature was, perhaps, no more evident than during the <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/first-council-of-ephesus">ecumenical Council of Ephesus</a> in 431. It took place at the height of <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/nestorianism">the Nestorian controversy</a>. The disagreement involved the princes of the eastern Church: <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/nestorius">Nestorius</a>, archbishop of <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/constantinople">Constantinople</a>, whose teachings were the focus of concern, and Cyril, who led opposition to him. Nestorius had requested the council, and <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/theodosius-ii">Emperor Theodosius II</a> had selected <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/ephesus">Ephesus</a> (along the western coast of modern-day Turkey) to host it, because of that city&#8217;s accessibility. Fortuitously for Cyril, two factors played in his favor: First, the host city&#8217;s bishop, Memnon, happened to support him; and Ephesus happened to be the city in which Mary, Jesus&#8217; mother, was supposed to have died, making her dear to Christians there. They used this against Nestorius, who had taught that Mary should not be called by the traditional epithet &theta;&epsilon;&omicron;&tau;&omicron;&kappa;&omicron;&sigmaf; (<a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/theotokos"><em>theotokos</em></a>) meaning &#8220;Mother of God,&#8221; but rather as &chi;&rho;&iota;&sigma;&tau;&omicron;&kappa;&omicron;&sigmaf; (<em>christokos</em>) meaning &#8220;Mother of Christ.&#8221; Cyril and Memnon appealed to the Marian sentiments of the Council&#8217;s host city, claiming that Nestorius was somehow &#8220;dissing&#8221; Mary, and the population appears to have latched onto that.
<p>Now, Cyril and his company of Egyptian bishops arrived by ship, since he had the money to pay to travel by ship, whereas the supporters of Nestorius &#8212; the most important of which was <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/john-of-antioch">John</a>, patriarch of Antioch &#8212; traveled over land. Naturally, then, this meant that Ephesus was full of Cyrilline partisans long before the Nestorian prelates could arrive. Cyril and Memnon convened the council before their opponents could arrive in any numbers, and the few Nestorians who were already there, were driven out of the Council chambers. This one-sided council, quite naturally, passed judgement on Nestorius and condemned him. Shortly after, John arrived, and immediately convoked his own council, denouncing Cyril and Memnon.
<p>The result was several weeks of alternating and opposing councils being convened, with rival denunciations, and even some brawling among ecclesiasts, and pitched battles taking place in the streets. The Emperor, hearing about events in Ephesus remotely (he remained in Constantinople) and only days after the fact, was forced to send deputies there to keep order, but the deputies ended up becoming embroiled in the conflict rather than trying to ameliorate it. While he had initially supported Nestorius &#8212; the man he had chosen as archbishop of the Imperial seat &#8212; Theodosius was eventually overcome by local influences, especially the monks of the Constantinople region who tended toward Cyril&#8217;s position. Cyril also had bribed various courtiers, who murmured against Nestorius in the Emperor&#8217;s ear. Eventually Theodosius rethought his support for Nestorius.
<p>Between the locals in Ephesus who hated him, and the waning support of the Emperor, after three months of conflicting councils and intractable arguing, Nestorius agreed to leave Ephesus and also retire as archbishop of Constantinople, so long as his own protege replaced him in that see. The emperor and prelates agreed to this arrangement, and he departed, residing in his home region near Antioch.
<p>The Council met hastily, now with no contention. Cyril&#8217;s theology was approved and Nestorius&#8217;s condemned. But this hadn&#8217;t happened because the two theologies had been explored and debated, and Cyril&#8217;s had proven itself correct; it was only because Nestorius had, essentially, surrendered the Council.
<p>Nestorius had walked away from the Council in good faith, but within a couple of years, the machinations of Cyril overcame him. His chief ally John of Antioch had given up on him, due to the threats and bullying of Cyril and his own allies; Nestorius&#8217; chosen successor in Constantinople had given up his theology for the same reason; and his erstwhile patron Theodosius had banished him to an outlying monastery in Egypt. Christendom utterly abandoned Nestorius, in spite of all promises that had been made to him. Cyril acquired the absolute victory he&#8217;d worked so hard for (and presumably had spent a lot of money to achieve).
<p>The destruction of Nestorius was not Cyril&#8217;s only victory, however. Using the monks of the Alexandria environs as his personal army of stormtroopers, during his career, Cyril ordered the destruction of synagogues and the expuslion of Jews from the city; he destroyed various heretics within his see; and he ordered a number of murders, the most famous of which was that of <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/hypatia-of-alexandria">Hypatia</a>, then the most prominent pagan academician of Alexandria &#8212; monks attacked her in a mob and literally rent her to pieces. The funds he had used to get himself quickly to Ephesus, and to bribe Imperial courtiers, likely had come to him via the routing of his foes and his monks&#8217; plundering.
<p>The escapades of Cyril of Alexandria are retold famously by <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/edward-gibbon">Edward Gibbon</a> in his <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0753818817?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=antiideology-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0753818817"><em>The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire</em></a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=antiideology-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0753818817" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> (<a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/gibbon/decline/volume2/chap47.htm">Volume 2, chapter 47</a>). That Cyril of Alexandria is viewed as a saint is a shame, however, it&#8217;s not likely any church will condemn him, since his victory over Nestorius eventually contributed to the Trinity doctrine, which is so precious to most (but not all) Christians. To admit any flaw in Cyril could, conceivably, be construed as &#8220;anti-Trinitarian,&#8221; and most Christians simply will <em>never</em> permit that.
<p>The lesson here is that right and wrong in Christianity are determined by one&#8217;s theology. Having the &#8220;right&#8221; theology, means everything one does is morally &#8220;right&#8221;; even if &#8212; in actual terms &#8212; one&#8217;s behavior was anything <em>but</em> &#8220;morally &#8216;right&#8217;.&#8221;
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s quite illogical to refuse to admit wrongdoing on someone&#8217;s part merely because of which belief-package s/he espoused; but this illogic appears not to matter much to anyone.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/35034349172@N01/2859877260"><strong>AKMA</strong></a>.</p>

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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s great fun to critique and ridicule religious fundamentalism. It is, after all, so easy to do, since religious fundamentalism is always so utterly irrational and immature. In many ways, religious fundamentalism satirizes itself. But some real entertainment can be had by watching religious fundamentalists tear into other religious fundamentalists. A classic example is the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/27557398@N04/2568132117/"><img alt="Qur'an" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/2568132117_c0d3deb7ab.jpg" title="Qur'an" width="240" height="180" align="right" /></a>It&#8217;s great fun to critique and ridicule religious fundamentalism. It is, after all, so easy to do, since religious fundamentalism is always so utterly irrational and immature. In many ways, religious fundamentalism <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law">satirizes itself</a>. But some real entertainment can be had by watching religious fundamentalists tear into <em>other</em> religious fundamentalists. A classic example is the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, FL. <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2009/07/11/spreading-hate-in-gods-name/">I&#8217;ve blogged about</a> this childish crew&#8217;s antics before, but <a href="http://pewforum.org/Religion-News/Fla-church-plans-to-burn-Qurans-on-9-11-anniversary.aspx">the Religion News Service (via the Pew Forum on Religion &amp; Public Life) reports they&#8217;ve decided to</a> up the ante a bit more (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rT63ybWl">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>A Florida church with &#8220;Islam is of the devil&#8221; signs in its front lawn plans to host an &#8220;International Burn A Quran Day,&#8221; on the ninth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks this year.
<p>The Dove World Outreach Center, a non-denominational church in Gainesville, has marked the date in previous years with protests against Islam. &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>They&#8217;re engaging in this juvenile and incendiary behavior, they claim, <em>as a favor</em> to the world&#8217;s Muslims:<br />
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<p>&#8220;We feel, as Christians, one of our jobs is to warn,&#8221; said [Pastor Terry] Jones.
<p>The goal of these and other protests are to give Muslims an opportunity to convert, he said.</p></blockquote>
<p>As a fundamentalist Christian, Jones of course worships his own set of scripture, that being the Christian Bible. I wonder how much of a &#8220;favor&#8221; he&#8217;d interpret it as, if a bunch of Islamic fundamentalists were to burn some Christian Bibles. I can&#8217;t really prove it, but I suspect he&#8217;d be outraged over that.
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://friendlyatheist.com/2010/07/22/and-we-get-in-trouble-for-stick-figure-muhammads/"><strong>The Friendly Atheist</strong></a>.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/27557398@N04/2568132117/"><strong>Doctor Yuri</strong></a>.</p>

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		<title>Italian Priests Filmed In Gay Clubs</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PsiCop</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As if the Roman Catholic Church didn&#8217;t have enough problems, especially with misbehaving clergy, an Italian magazine has exposed priests in that country attending gay clubs and having sex in churches. The (UK) Telegraph reports on this Panorama magazine expos&#233; (WebCite cached article): A journalist from Panorama, a conservative weekly news magazine owned by Silvio [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/7907881/Catholic-priests-filmed-at-gay-clubs-and-having-casual-sex.html"><img src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/gaypriests_1684964c.jpg" alt="Panorama magazine published photographs apparently showing homosexual priests attending gay nightclubs and engaging in casual sex." title="Panorama magazine published photographs apparently showing homosexual priests attending gay nightclubs and engaging in casual sex." width="240" height="150" class="size-full wp-image-2924" align="right" /></a>As if the Roman Catholic Church didn&#8217;t have enough problems, especially with misbehaving clergy, an Italian magazine has exposed priests in that country attending gay clubs and having sex in churches. <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/7907881/Catholic-priests-filmed-at-gay-clubs-and-having-casual-sex.html">The (UK) <em>Telegraph</em> reports on this </a><em>Panorama</em> magazine expos&eacute; (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rS7ASi59">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>A journalist from Panorama, a conservative weekly news magazine owned by Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian prime minister, used a hidden camera to film interviews with three gay priests, who introduced the journalist to the gay clubs they apparently frequent, and allowed the journalist to film their sexual encounters with strangers, including one in a church building.
<p>One of the priests, a Frenchman identified only as Paul, celebrated Mass in the morning before driving the two escorts he had hired to attend a party the night before to the airport, Panorama said.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://blog.panorama.it/italia/2010/07/22/le-notti-brave-dei-preti-gay-una-grande-inchiesta-in-edicola-venerdi-con-panorama/">The <em>Panorama</em> article (in Italian) is available</a> online (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rS7c9MwQ">cached version</a>). The Catholic Church responded in a conflicted, paradoxical manner. On the one hand it denounced the priests involved and ordered them to quit the Church:<br />
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<p>The Catholic Church in Italy, still reeling from the paedophile priest scandal, responded on Friday by ordering homosexual priests who are leading a double life to come out of the closet and leave the priesthood.</p></blockquote>
<p>On the other hand, it denied the men filmed in the magazine expos&eacute; were Catholic priests:<br />
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<p>The Vatican did not comment on the Panorama investigation, but a senior source said: &#8220;This is the usual silly season rubbish to attract readers during the quiet summer months.
<p>&#8220;There is no proof that the people involved are from the clergy.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This story has similarities to one that recently came to light in my own state of Connecticut, as <a href="http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-priest-arrest-0707-20100706,0,1626953,full.story">a Catholic priest in the Nutmeg State has been charged with embezzling upwards of a million dollars from his own parish</a>, spending it on various escapades in New York City, among other places (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rS8tUhAM">cached article</a>).
<p>In the Connecticut case, it was the archdiocese of Hartford that caught on to the priest&#8217;s antics <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/07/07/the-raging-hypocrisy-of-the-roman-catholic-church/">and turned him in</a> to the authorities &#8212; likely because they think he had stolen from <em>them</em>. But in Italy, the Church refuses to acknowledge the scandal. They remain delusionally in denial concerning the moral collapse which is rapidly consuming their organization. The facts speak for themselves, even if the Vatican refuses to accept them.</p>

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		<title>Obama Prevents People From Being Christian</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Missouri Congressional candidate Ed Martin has declared that President Obama and other Democrats are preventing people from acquiring their salvation from Jesus Christ. Yes, folks, he really said it. Fired Up Missouri has the story, as well as the audio (WebCite cached article): Speaking on the Gina Loudon radio program this afternoon, Congressional candidate Ed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><a href="http://edmartinforcongress.com/about/"><img src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/ed_and_family.jpg" alt="Ed Martin &amp; family (candidate for Missouri's 3rd Congressional district)" title="Ed Martin &amp; family (candidate for Missouri's 3rd Congressional district)" align="right" width="220" height="235" class="size-full wp-image-2906" /></a>Missouri Congressional candidate Ed Martin has declared that President Obama and other Democrats are preventing people from acquiring their salvation from Jesus Christ. Yes, folks, he really said it. <a href="http://www.firedupmissouri.com/content/today-gop-extremism-martin-says-obama-carnahan-will-take-away-freedom-find-lord">Fired Up Missouri has the story</a>, as well as the audio (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rJzuzw3K">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Speaking on the <a href="http://www.truthtalk630.com/">Gina Loudon radio program</a> this afternoon, Congressional candidate Ed Martin told listeners that <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2w6SRX4vaY">&#8220;we have to be very, very aware&#8221;</a> of policies pursued by Barack Obama and Russ Carnahan that will &#8220;take away&#8221; the freedom to be a Christian. &#8230;<br />
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<p>MARTIN: &#8230; And part of that freedom &#8212; when you take a government and you impose, and take away all your choices. One of the choices you take away is to find the Lord.  And find your savior.
<p>And that&#8217;s one of the things that&#8217;s most destructive about the growth of government. It&#8217;s this taking away that freedom. The freedom &#8212; the ultimate freedom, to find your salvation, to get your salvation. And to find Christ, for me and you.</p></blockquote>
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<p>If you wish, you can listen to the recording, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2w6SRX4vaY">directly from YouTube</a>:</p>
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<p>Now, I&#8217;m not sure how this works, exactly. If salvation comes from God through Jesus Christ, I don&#8217;t quite understand how any human being &#8212; not even a president of the United States &#8212; could possibly get in the way of it. I know I&#8217;m just a cynical godless agnostic heathen, but I just don&#8217;t see how anything in the universe can thwart the will of a truly omnipotent being.
<p>Do you?
<p>&#8230; Didn&#8217;t think so.
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://lordrag.blogspot.com/2010/07/obama-will-send-you-to-hell.html"><strong>Pulling to the Left</strong></a>.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://edmartinforcongress.com/about/"><strong>Ed Martin campaign</strong> Web site</a>.</p>

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		<title>Oklahoma: The New Kansas!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I&#8217;ve mentioned before, it appears Oklahoma has become the new Kansas. Writer Thomas Frank famously posited in 2004 &#8212; in his What&#8217;s the Matter with Kansas? &#8212; that the Religious Right had used his home state as a kind of crucible in which to construct a suitable following for its religiofascist agenda. It certainly [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/28061796@N00/2973216062/" title="Sign: God Hates Hateful Christians" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3158/2973216062_62efb02f8f_m.jpg" alt="Sign: God Hates Hateful Christians" align="right" border="0" /></a>As <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2009/06/30/religionazis-taking-over-oklahoma/">I&#8217;ve mentioned</a> before, it appears Oklahoma has become the new Kansas. Writer Thomas Frank famously posited in 2004 &#8212; in his <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/080507774X?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=antiideology-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=080507774X"><em>What&#8217;s the Matter with Kansas?</em></a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=antiideology-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=080507774X" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> &#8212; that the Religious Right had used his home state as a kind of crucible in which to construct a suitable following for its religiofascist agenda. It certainly appears, over the last couple years (<a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2009/06/30/religionazis-taking-over-oklahoma/">as I&#8217;ve touched</a> <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2009/06/10/ten-commandments-in-oklahoma/">on a time</a> <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2009/04/03/more-religioneering-in-the-oklahoma-legislature/">or two here</a> <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2009/03/23/oklahoma-legislators-at-war-with-dawkins/">on this blog</a>), that they&#8217;ve drifted one state to the south and are now trying to make Oklahoma into a second crucible. The latest example of this militant religiofascism is something known as the Save Our State amendment. Its goal is to prevent Islamic <em>shari&#8217;a</em> law from being followed by Oklahoma courts. <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/US/Media/oklahoma-pass-laws-prohibiting-islamic-sharia-laws-apply/story?id=10908521">ABC News reported on this insanely misguided</a> effort (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rIKSOtey">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.
<p>The ban is a cornerstone of a &#8220;Save our State&#8221; amendment to the Oklahoma constitution that was recently approved by the Legislature.
<p>The amendment &#8212; which also would forbid judges from using international laws as a basis for decisions &#8212; will now be put before Oklahoma&#8217;s voters in November. Approval is expected.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are two problems with this amendment. The most important is that it&#8217;s based on the paranoid delusion that Oklahoma courts may soon follow <em>shari&#8217;a</em> law. There is absolutely no evidence that this has yet happened, however, nor is there any evidence it&#8217;s on the horizon. The Religious Right is going to war over a mirage.
<p>The second problem is that &#8212; where American courts following international-law precedent is concerned &#8212; that ship has already sailed. It has been done, and it might be done again; <em>and</em> because the US Supreme Court has done it, that means a state constitutional amendment <em>cannot</em> prevent it.
<p>T. Scott Brown, Atheist Examiner for Oklahoma City, <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-56516-Oklahoma-City-Atheism-Examiner~y2010m7d9-The-Save-our-State-amendment-will-save-Oklahoma-from-Sharia-law">goes over this in more detail</a> (including providing a list of relevant court cases).
<p>I&#8217;d like to be clear on the fact that I am opposed to <em>shari&#8217;a</em> law being imposed on anyone, Muslims included. It&#8217;s a metaphysically-based legal system closely tied to Islamic religious doctrines and practices. As a form of justice, it leaves much to be desired. Metaphysically-based legal codes are nearly as detrimental to humanity as <a href="http://www.skepdic.com/tialtmed.html">metaphysically-based medicine</a> is. I&#8217;ve also blogged <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2008/09/14/saudi-clerics-wants-astrologers-executed/">on the evils</a> &#8212; <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2008/11/28/the-answer-to-the-economic-crisis/">and the follies</a> &#8212; of <em>shari&#8217;a</em> law. I&#8217;ve also pointed out <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2008/07/03/islamic-law-in-the-uk/">the foolishness of allowing <em>shari&#8217;a</em> law in UK courts</a>. So by pointing out that Oklahoma&#8217;s &#8220;Save our State amendment&#8221; is insane, I am not &#8220;defending&#8221; <em>shari&#8217;a</em> law. What I am saying is that passing a state-constitutional amendment preventing something from happening, which is <em>not</em> currently happening and <em>will never</em> happen, is paranoid-delusional thinking, and that sane, mature adults do not engage in this kind of thing.
<p>The hosts of Religiofascism are on the march, folks! They not only have taken over Kansas, they&#8217;ve pretty much got Oklahoma in their corner too.
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-56516-Oklahoma-City-Atheism-Examiner~y2010m7d9-The-Save-our-State-amendment-will-save-Oklahoma-from-Sharia-law"><strong>OKC Atheist Examiner</strong></a>.
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		<title>Glenn Beck&#8217;s Unrecognizable Christianity</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The country&#8217;s most famous paranoid schizophrenic, Glenn Beck, continues to rail about &#8220;social justice&#8221; and how it&#8217;s not Christian to want to give to others. As I&#8217;ve blogged before, Beckie-boy&#8217;s reasoning is fatally flawed because he conflates terminology; specifically, he is ferociously angry about the use of certain terms that once had served as Communist [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/22007612@N05/4392739711/" title="Glenn Beck" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4392739711_5f99a4aff5_m.jpg" align="right" alt="Glenn Beck" border="0" /></a>The country&#8217;s most famous paranoid schizophrenic, Glenn Beck, continues to rail about &#8220;social justice&#8221; and how it&#8217;s not Christian to want to give to others. <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/03/15/glenn-beck-christianity-and-social-justice/">As I&#8217;ve blogged before</a>, Beckie-boy&#8217;s reasoning is fatally flawed because he conflates terminology; specifically, he is <em>ferociously <strong>angry</strong></em> about the use of certain terms that once had served as Communist &#8220;catch phrases.&#8221; That these terms happen also to have meaning to other people &#8212; for other purposes &#8212; appears to be something he&#8217;s blissfully unaware of. This leads him to say and do things that end up appearing nonsensical, if not insane. <a href="http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/07/14/glenn-becks-latest-heresy/">The <em>Time</em> magazine Swampland blog recently took note</a> of one such example (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rH0WOhDU">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>This time he claimed that black liberation theology—theology that believes Jesus saves victims from their oppressors—forces whites to unnecessarily confess to racism and inspires the government to redistribute money from wealthy whites to victimized minorities. Because Jesus is not a victim, in Beck&#8217;s words, “Social justice isn&#8217;t in the Bible.”
<p>However three days before the resurrection, Jesus, a Palestinian Jew, himself was tortured and hung on a cross. Beck says that even then Jesus was only a victor &#8212; “If Jesus was a victim he would have come back from the dead and made the Jews pay for what they did.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Beckie-boy thus redefines the reality of Christian legend by declaring Jesus &#8212; who supposedly had been tried on a trumped-up charge, beaten, tortured, falsely convicted of that crime, and executed for it &#8212; was not actually a &#8220;victim,&#8221; because in Beckie-boy&#8217;s mind, being a &#8220;victim&#8221; means you also <em>must</em> react violently.
<p>I haven&#8217;t actually taken the time to look it up, but I&#8217;m pretty sure no dictionary definition of &#8220;victim&#8221; requires that a &#8220;victim&#8221; also kick the asses of his those who victimized him/her. Obviously the Beckster made that part up, just so he could find something to bitch and whine about. To say that Jesus cannot have been a &#8220;victim&#8221; of Roman justice, is laughable!
<p>So, all you Right-wing religionists &#8230; I have to ask &#8230; why do you continue to let this off-the-rails batshit-insane lunatic, who clearly hasn&#8217;t a clue what he&#8217;s talking about, speak for you? Haven&#8217;t you had enough of this circus yet? When are you going to ask that Beckie-boy be returned to the asylum he escaped from?
<p>For the benefit of Glennie and his sycophantic, mindless followers, here is but one of Jesus&#8217; teachings for you to consider:<br />
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<p>But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left.
<p>Then the King will say to those on His right, &#8220;Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.&#8221;
<p>Then the righteous will answer Him, &#8220;Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink? And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?&#8221;
<p>The King will answer and say to them, &#8220;Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.&#8221;
<p>Then He will also say to those on His left, &#8220;Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.&#8221;
<p>Then they themselves also will answer, &#8216;Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?&#8221;
<p>Then He will answer them, &#8220;Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.&#8221; These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025:31-46&#038;version=NASB">Matthew 25:31-46</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>I suggest that Glennie and his screaming Right-wing minions get ready for that latter judgement &#8230; because if Jesus does return someday, they&#8217;ll find themselves in big trouble!
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/22007612@N05/4392739711/" title="Gage Skidmore" target="_blank"><strong>Gage Skidmore</strong></a>.</p>

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		<title>Vatican Reiterates Status Quo</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a while now the Vatican has been promising to issue new guidelines for handling clerical abuse claims within the realm of Church law. The unspoken implication behind the Holy See&#8217;s promises has been that the procedures would change for the better &#8230; that is, by tightening accountability of all involved and declaring that accusations [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/58007081@N00/3033113102/" title="Jesus statue" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3292/3033113102_400bd4275b_m.jpg" alt="Jesus statue" align="right" border="0" /></a>For a while now the Vatican has been promising to issue new guidelines for handling clerical abuse claims within the realm of Church law. The unspoken implication behind the Holy See&#8217;s promises has been that the procedures would change for the better &#8230; that is, by tightening accountability of all involved and declaring that accusations should be relayed to local civil authorities. But one of the things the Vatican is most famous for is its reluctance to change; thus, it&#8217;s no surprise that its newly-announced guidelines are really not much more than a restatement of the status quo. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/16/world/europe/16vatican.html">The <em>New York Times</em> reports on this latest piece of evidence</a> that the Catholic Church is in the throes of a moral collapse (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rFUiEarq">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>In its most significant revision to church law since a sex abuse crisis hit the United States a decade ago and roared back from remission in Europe this spring, the Vatican on Thursday issued new internal rules making it easier to discipline priests who have sexually abused minors.
<p>But in a move that infuriated victims’ groups and put United States bishops on the defensive, it also codified “the attempted ordination of women” to the priesthood as one of the church’s most grave crimes, along with heresy, schism and pedophilia.</p></blockquote>
<p>Note here the effort at diversion: In the midst of responding to one issue, the <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/catholic-clerical-abuse-scandal/">Catholic clerical abuse scandal</a>, the Vatican couldn&#8217;t resist getting a dig in at another &#8212; completely unrelated &#8212; issue, that being the (potential for) ordination of women. How obvious &#8230; not to mention juvenile!
<p>Of course, the Vatican is denying reality and misrepresenting the nature of this document:<br />
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<p>In a statement, the Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said the changes were a sign of the church’s commitment to addressing child sex abuse with “rigor and transparency.”</p></blockquote>
<p>There is, in fact, nothing &#8220;rigorous&#8221; about this, and nothing has been done to enhance &#8220;transparency.&#8221; Bishops are <em>still</em> free to shuffle clergy around and allow abusers to prey on new victims, even when their wrongdoing is known. There is <em><strong>no</strong> accountability</em> for the hierarchy. None whatsoever. That was the case before, and it remains the case now.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/58007081@N00/3033113102/" title="missliz" target="_blank"><strong>missliz</strong></a>.</p>

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		<description><![CDATA[About a year ago I blogged about a church pastor in Kentucky who insisted that all good Christians carry guns around. He felt that guns and Christianity are inseparable, even if guns hadn&#8217;t existed in Jesus&#8217; time and there is no evidence he had so much as touched any kind of weapon (aside from the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><a href="http://counterlightsrantsandblather1.blogspot.com/2009/06/jesus-kicks-ass.html"><img src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/jesus-gun.jpg" alt="What Would Jesus Do ... with a gun?" title="What Would Jesus Do ... blow away the Infidel?" align="right" width="240" height="199" class="size-full wp-image-2875" /></a>About a year ago <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2009/06/27/gun-ownership-theology/">I blogged about</a> a church pastor in Kentucky who insisted that all good Christians carry guns around. He felt that guns and Christianity are inseparable, even if guns hadn&#8217;t existed in Jesus&#8217; time and there is no evidence he had so much as <em>touched</em> any kind of weapon (aside from the scourge he used in the <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2021:12–13;%20Mark%2011:15–17;%20Luke%2019:45–46;%20John%202:14-16&#038;version=NASB">Cleansing of the Temple</a>).
<p>Well, it&#8217;s not just a pastor in Kentucky who wants worshippers to pack heat when they go to church; the ferociously Religious Rightist governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana signed a law specifically promoting exactly that, <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39466.html">as reported by Politico</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5rCb45kea">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Louisiana GOP Gov. Bobby Jindal has signed a law allowing holders of concealed-weapons permits to carry guns into houses of worship.
<p>The bill, signed Tuesday night, allows permit holders who take an additional eight hours of tactical training each year to bring a gun into “any church, synagogue, mosque or other similar place of worship.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I honestly do not get how any rational Christian could possibly view arming him/herself as a valid way of worshipping the man who said &#8212; among other things &#8212; &#8220;do not resist an evil person&#8221; (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205:39&#038;version=NASB">Mt 5:39</a>), &#8220;turn the other cheek&#8221; (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%206:29&#038;version=NASB">Lk 6:29</a>) and &#8220;whoever lives by the sword will die by the sword&#8221; (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2026:52&#038;version=NASB">Mt 26:52</a>). There must be something about Jesus&#8217; own plain words that I don&#8217;t get &#8230; because I can&#8217;t see any place in the gospels where he even began to suggest that his followers needed to arm themselves. It&#8217;s just not there. The phrase &#8220;militant Christianity&#8221; is a contradiction in terms, if one looks at Jesus&#8217; actual teachings as recorded in the gospels; yet it seems to be an expectation of all Christians, by Jindal and the rest of the Religious Right.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://counterlightsrantsandblather1.blogspot.com/2009/06/jesus-kicks-ass.html">Counterlight&#8217;s Peculiars</a>.</p>

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		<title>Christians Glorying In Misfortunes Of Atheist</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps you&#8217;ve heard that Christopher Hitchens &#8212; one of the three so-called &#8220;New Atheists&#8221; whom theists despise more than anything else in the world &#8212; has come down with cancer, and ended a book tour abruptly in order to get it treated. This news has caused theists to lick their chops and salivate at the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Christopher_Hitchens_crop.jpg"><img alt="Christopher Hitchens" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/Christopher_Hitchens_crop.jpg" title="Christopher Hitchens" width="240" height="212" align="right" /></a>Perhaps you&#8217;ve heard that Christopher Hitchens &#8212; one of the three so-called &#8220;New Atheists&#8221; whom theists <em>despise</em> more than anything else in the world &#8212; <a href="http://mensnewsdaily.com/sexandmetro/2010/07/05/journalist-christopher-hitchens-has-cancer-quits-book-tour/">has come down with cancer</a>, and ended a book tour abruptly in order to get it treated. This news has caused theists to lick their chops and salivate at the prospect that Hitchens might convert to worship as a result of it. <a href="http://blog.nj.com/njv_george_berkin/2010/07/god_is_great_to_christopher_hi.html">The <em>Star-Ledger</em> of New Jersey, for example</a>, opines as follows (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5r9jNWzC4">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>But Hitchens’ rebellion against God has been so public that God may require a very public humbling.</p></blockquote>
<p>The author is saying that cancer is God&#8217;s humiliating retribution against Hitchens for having written <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0446697966?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=antiideology-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0446697966">God Is Not Great</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=antiideology-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0446697966" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /></em>. I suppose this kind of tactic is natural to the deity <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/job-new-2">who tortured Job</a> outrageously, then <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job%2038-41:34&#038;version=NASB">railed at him</a> over it.
<p>This comes after the obligatory &#8230; but factually incorrect &#8230; claim that &#8220;there are no atheists in foxholes.&#8221; Of course there are atheists in foxholes &#8212; <a href="http://www.maaf.info/expaif.html">I can even introduce you to some</a>, if you don&#8217;t believe me!
<p>Then there&#8217;s <a href="http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/05/perhaps-throat-cancer-will-move-christopher-hitchens-to-a-change-of-heart/">this little number from the (UK) <em>Catholic Herald</em></a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5r9kc7WhB">cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Perhaps visiting his doctor will be a wake-up call for Hitchens?</p></blockquote>
<p>Again with the belief that God is using a physical affliction to coerce Hitchens into converting &#8230; coming from a member of the so-called <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/religion-of-love/">&#8220;Religion of Love&#8221;</a> (aka Christianity).
<p>Isn&#8217;t it amazing the kinds of truly <em>wicked</em> contortions Christians will engage in, in order to think better of themselves and of their God, and worse of their non-believing foes? What childish nonsense.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Christopher_Hitchens_crop.jpg">Wikimedia Commons</a>.
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2010/07/christopher-hitchens-god-atheism-prayer/1"><em>USA Today</em> Faith &amp; Reason blog</a>.</p>

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		<title>Schuller, Famous Televangelist, Retires</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 01:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PsiCop</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve blogged a couple times about problems and infighting over at the monument to evangelical Christian opulence known as the Crystal Cathedral. Along with having lost its financial luster, that edifice is also losing its founding pastor, the Rev Robert H. Schuller, as the AP reports via the Torrington Register-Citizen (WebCite cached article): The Rev. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/80384851@N00/4357576424/" title="Crystal Cathedral 2" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/4357576424_7866e734ff_m.jpg" alt="Crystal Cathedral 2" border="0" align="right" /></a><a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/01/30/more-crystal-cathedral-woes/">I&#8217;ve blogged</a> a <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2009/02/01/the-shine-is-off-the-crystal-cathedral/">couple times</a> about problems and infighting over at the monument to evangelical Christian opulence known as the <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/crystal-cathedral">Crystal Cathedral</a>. Along with having lost its financial luster, that edifice is also losing its founding pastor, the Rev Robert H. Schuller, <a href="http://hosted2.ap.org/CTTOR/0798b35a2b9245c790110b1366b5cc82/Article_2010-07-11-US-Crystal-Cathedral-Schuller-Retires/id-fd0032a2e02f4c7bad30d5631529adb3">as the AP reports via the <em>Torrington Register-Citizen</em></a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5r9gDQAQ2">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
<blockquote>
<p>The Rev. Robert H. Schuller, founder of Southern California&#8217;s Crystal Cathedral megachurch and host of the &#8220;Hour of Power&#8221; televangelism broadcast, announced Sunday he will retire after 55 years in the pulpit and his daughter will take over.
<p>The 83-year-old Schuller told his congregation that Sheila Schuller Coleman will become sole lead pastor, after sharing that role with her father for the past year.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, this doesn&#8217;t mean the Schuller family schism has healed:<br />
<blockquote>
<p>Coleman&#8217;s appointment comes two years after Schuller&#8217;s son, the Rev. Robert A. Schuller, split from the church during a family rift that made headlines. The younger Schuller had been groomed to take over for his father.
<p>Robert A. Schuller is now part of Dallas-based American Life Network, a cable channel aiming to produce family-oriented programming.</p></blockquote>
<p>Given the monstrosity he built in which to preach &#8212; and from which to broadcast <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/the-hour-of-power">his &#8220;Hour of Power&#8221; show</a> &#8212; I hesitate to imagine what sort of obscenely palatial structure the elder Schuller will build for his retirement.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/80384851@N00/4357576424/" title="loop_oh" target="_blank"><strong>loop_oh</strong></a>.</p>

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