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		<title>Pennsylvania House Declares 2012 &#8220;Year Of The Bible&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a move that&#8217;s sure to warm the cockles of the Religious Right within the Commonwealth, WITF in Harrisburg reports that Pennsylvania&#8217;s House unamimously voted to declare 2012 &#8220;the Year of the Bible&#8221; (WebCite cached article): With a unanimous vote last week, House members declared 2012 the “Year of the Bible.” The resolution recognizes the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.freefoto.com/preview/05-02-11/Bible"><img alt="Bible / Ian Britton, via FreeFoto (ref no. 05-02-11)" src="http://www.freefoto.com/images/05/02/05_02_11---Bible_web.jpg" title="Bible / Ian Britton, via FreeFoto (ref no. 05-02-11)" width="260" align="right" /></a>In a move that&#8217;s sure to warm the cockles of the Religious Right within the Commonwealth, <a href="http://www.witf.org/state-house-sound-bites/the-year-of-the-bible" title="WITF / The Year of the Bible">WITF in Harrisburg reports that Pennsylvania&#8217;s House unamimously voted</a> to declare 2012 &#8220;the Year of the Bible&#8221; (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/658eiJLlP" title="WebCite cached version of WITF article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>With a unanimous vote last week, House members <a href="http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/Legis/PN/Public/btCheck.cfm?txtType=PDF&#038;sessYr=2011&#038;sessInd=0&#038;billBody=H&#038;billTyp=R&#038;billNbr=0535&#038;pn=2983" title="THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF PENNSYLVANIA / HOUSE RESOLUTION No. 535 Session of 2012 ">declared 2012 the “Year of the Bible.”</a>
<p>The resolution recognizes the book that has shaped the Commonwealth and the “national need to study and apply the teachings of the holy scriptures.”</p></blockquote>
<p>The article gratuitously adds a little of the &#8220;Christian martyr complex&#8221;:<br />
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<p>Sponsoring Republican Rep. Rick Saccone of Allegheny County said he’s been getting a bit of critical feedback on the measure.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, the poor thing! How utterly <em>horrible</em> to be criticized for this! Why, it&#8217;s intolerable!
<p>Ironically, while he&#8217;s defending the importance of the Commonwealth &#8220;recognizing&#8221; the Bible&#8217;s importance, Saccone dismisses his own measure as meaningless:<br />
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<p>Saccone said it’s like many other largely symbolic pieces of legislation recognizing Girl Scout Week, honoring Jewish chaplains, or paying tribute to military veterans.</p></blockquote>
<p>Believe me, the Religious Right will not view this declaration as &#8220;merely symbolic.&#8221; They will, instead, fallaciously use it as &#8220;evidence&#8221; of <a href="http://www.salon.com/2009/04/14/christian_nation/singleton/" title="Salon / America is not a Christian nation">their &#8220;Christian nation&#8221; scenario</a> &#8230; insisting that the <em>entire</em> country <em>must</em> revere the Bible exactly as they do, and <em>must</em>, by extension, be Christian just like them. Sorry to break it to them, but this is <em>not</em> a &#8220;Christian nation,&#8221; and little maneuvers like this one can never make it so.
<p>As for the &#8220;national need to study and apply the teachings of the holy scriptures,&#8221; I question this in the strongest terms. The Bible contains a lot of &#8220;teachings&#8221; which no moral or ethical person should ever even contemplate doing, much less &#8220;apply&#8221; in their lives. Among them are the following:
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<li>All flesh that moved on the earth perished, birds and cattle and beasts and every swarming thing that swarms upon the earth, and all mankind; of all that was on the dry land, all in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, died. Thus He blotted out every living thing that was upon the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky, and they were blotted out from the earth; and only Noah was left, together with those that were with him in the ark. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%207:21-23&#038;version=NASB" title="Genesis 7:21-23 (BibleGateway.Com)">Gen 7:21-23</a>)</li>
<li>Now it came about at midnight that the LORD struck all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh who sat on his throne to the firstborn of the captive who was in the dungeon, and all the firstborn of cattle. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2012:29&#038;version=NASB" title="Exodus 12:29">Ex 12:29</a>)</li>
<li>He who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2021:17&#038;version=NASB" title="Exodus 21:17 (BibleGateway.Com)">Ex 21:17</a>)</li>
<li>We utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women and children of every city. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%203:6&#038;version=NASB" title="Deuteronomy 3:6 (BibleGateway.Com)">Dt 3:6</a>)</li>
<li>Thus you shall not show pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2019:21&#038;version=NASB" title="Deuteronomy 19:21 (BibleGateway.Com)">Dt 19:21</a>)</li>
<li>If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death; the girl, because she did not cry out in the city, and the man, because he has violated his neighbor’s wife. Thus you shall purge the evil from among you. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2022:23-24&#038;version=NASB" title="Deuteronomy 22:23-24 (BibleGateway.Com)">Dt 22:23-24</a>)</li>
<li>They utterly destroyed everything in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox and sheep and donkey, with the edge of the sword. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joshua%206:21&#038;version=NASB" title="Joshua 6:21 (BibleGateway.Com)">Jo 6:21</a>)</li>
<li>Thus says the LORD of hosts, &#8220;I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he set himself against him on the way while he was coming up from Egypt. Now go and strike Amalek and utterly destroy all that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.&#8221; (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Samuel%2015:2-3&#038;version=NASB" title="1 Samuel 15:2-3 (BibleGateway.Com)">1 Sm 15:2-3</a>)</li>
<li>How blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your little ones against the rock. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms%20137:9&#038;version=NASB" title="Psalms 137:9">Ps 137:9</a>)</li>
<li>And this is how I saw in the vision the horses and those who sat on them: the riders had breastplates the color of fire and of hyacinth and of brimstone; and the heads of the horses are like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths proceed fire and smoke and brimstone. A third of mankind was killed by these three plagues, by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which proceeded out of their mouths. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%209:17-18&#038;version=NASB" title="Revelation 9:17-18 (BibleGateway.Com)">Rev 9:17-18</a>)</li>
<li>And they came up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2020:9&#038;version=NASB" title="Revelation 20:9 (BibleGateway.Com)">Rev 20:9</a>)</li>
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<p>The above is but a minuscule sampling of the horrific teachings contained within the Bible; <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html" title="Skeptics Annotated Bible / Cruelty and Violence">there are many more</a> I could have picked from.
<p>It&#8217;s true the Bible contains some good teachings, such as what one finds in <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205-7&#038;version=NASB" title="Matthew 5-7, aka the Sermon on the Mount (BibleGateway.Com)">the Sermon on the Mount</a> and <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%206:17-49&#038;version=NASB" title="Luke 6:17-49, aka the Sermon on the Plain (BibleGateway.Com)">the Sermon on the Plain</a>, which includes sayings such as &#8220;Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God,&#8221; &#8220;Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God,&#8221; and &#8220;whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.&#8221; But really, how many Bible-venerating Christians obey those particular teachings? None that I know of.
<p>As it turns out, all the signatories to this declaration may well have expressly violated one of the Bible&#8217;s teachings:<br />
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<p>Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206:1&#038;version=NASB" title="Matthew 6:1 (BibleGateway.Com)">Mt 6:1</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>I can&#8217;t think of any more noticeable and public a way of expressing one&#8217;s Christian faith than by voting for this measure; hence, I can&#8217;t see how this couldn&#8217;t possibly be disobeying Jesus himself!
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.freefoto.com/preview/05-02-11/Bible" title="Bible / Ian Britton, via FreeFoto"><strong>Ian Britton</strong>, via FreeFoto</a>.</p>
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		<title>Creationism May Slither Into Indiana Public Schools</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess I can add Indiana to the list of states that are falling under the sway of Christofascism. The AP reports via the Ball State Daily News that Indiana&#8217;s senate is set to take up a bill permitting Creationism to be taught in that state&#8217;s public schools (WebCite cached article): Indiana&#8217;s public schools would [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="By derivative work: Massimo Catarinella (talk) Indiana_State_Capitol_rect_pano.jpg: Daniel Schwen (Indiana_State_Capitol_rect_pano.jpg) [CC-BY-SA-2.5 (www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5), GFDL (www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html) or CC-BY-SA-3.0 (www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/)], via Wikimedia Commons" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3AStateCapitolIndiana.jpg"><img align="right" width="260" alt="StateCapitolIndiana" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/StateCapitolIndiana.jpg/512px-StateCapitolIndiana.jpg"/></a>I guess I can add Indiana to the list of states that are falling under the sway of Christofascism. <a href="http://www.bsudailynews.com/teaching-creationism-clears-indiana-legislative-panel-1.2690864" title="AP via Ball State Daily News / Teaching creationism clears Indiana legislative panel">The AP reports via the <em>Ball State Daily News</em> that Indiana&#8217;s senate is set to take up a bill</a> permitting Creationism to be taught in that state&#8217;s public schools (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/650hB5cv9" title="WebCite cached version of BSDN article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Indiana&#8217;s public schools would be allowed to teach creationism in science classes under a bill endorsed Wednesday by a state Senate committee.
<p>The Senate Education Committee voted 8-2 in favor of the bill despite experts and some senators saying teaching creationism likely would be ruled unconstitutional if challenged in court.
<p>Committee Chairman Dennis Kruse, R-Auburn, said he sponsored the bill because he believes creationism should be taught among the theories on the development of life and that the proposal wouldn&#8217;t force any changes in schools teaching evolution.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sen. Kruse claims there is more than one &#8220;theory on the development of life.&#8221; What he does not understand &#8212; or perhaps he does, and is simply lying &#8212; is that science has only one such theory: Evolution. All of the other &#8220;theories&#8221; that have been posited, including Creationism, are <em>not</em> scientific and thus <em>do not</em> belong in a <em>science</em> classroom. Kruse is appealing to the &#8220;teach the controversy&#8221; notion, which is invalid, because in science, <em>there is <strong>no</strong> controversy</em> about evolution; no more of a &#8220;controversy&#8221; about it, than there is about whether the sky is blue, water is wet, or 2+2=4. To claim there is one, and then use that supposed &#8220;controversy&#8221; as an excuse to present non-scientific alternatives, is disingenuous. Really, <a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html" title="Talk Origins Archive / Evolution is a Fact and a Theory">evolution is <em>both</em> a theory <em>and</em> a fact</a>, and it is currently the <em>only</em> scientific explanation for the development of life. Militant Christians like the senator may not like that, but it&#8217;s true, and no amount of stamping their feet, thumping Bibles, or screeching and wailing about the evils of &#8220;Darwinism&#8221; (whatever that is) can ever change it.
<p>That the bill is written so it &#8220;permits&#8221; school districts to &#8220;opt in&#8221; to teaching Creationism, is already being used an evasion of responsibility by its supporters:<br />
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<p>&#8220;This is a local option and the local school board decides,&#8221; Kruse said.</p></blockquote>
<p>There, you see? Kruse is not, himself, explicitly &#8220;making&#8221; anyone teach Creationism. If it&#8217;s taught anywhere, it will solely be on the heads of local school boards &#8230; he&#8217;s staying out of it. I&#8217;m sure he sees this as politically convenient, but this is a transparant dodge; there will no doubt be plenty of school boards in a red state like Indiana where the local communities are Christianist enough that they&#8217;ll apply pressure to teach evolution. And Kruse is counting on that, I&#8217;m sure.
<p>What these Christofascists don&#8217;t care about that Creationism has already been forbidden to be taught in public schools by the U.S. Supreme Court, for example in <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/epperson-v-arkansas" title="Epperson v. Arkansas (Answers.Com)"><em>Epperson v. Arkansas</em> (1968)</a>, among other cases. It&#8217;s possible they&#8217;re hoping to revisit one or more of these decisions and have the current religionist-majority Supreme Court overturn them, but my guess is that&#8217;s not going to happen &#8212; even if they think it will. (This is another example of the Christianists&#8217; delusional reasoning.)
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://forums.delphiforums.com/skepticheretic/messages?msg=1589.1" title="Skeptics &amp; Heretics Forum / Post 1589.1 / Here we go again!"><strong>Mark at Skeptics &amp; Heretics Forum</strong> on Delphi Forums</a>.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3AStateCapitolIndiana.jpg" title="Indiana State Capitol, via Wikimedia Commons"><strong>Wikimedia Commons</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>Christofascists Want To Force Florida Kids To Pray</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Religionists love to look for easy targets to indoctrinate and/or convert. One group of people they&#8217;ve traditionally gone after, is your basic captive audience: School children. Toward that end, a bipartisan cadre of religionist lawmakers in Florida have cooked up yet another bill that &#8212; if it became law &#8212; would put prayer into public [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://atheism.about.com/od/religiousright/ig/Christian-Propaganda-Posters/One-Nation-Under-God.--3V.htm"><img align="right" alt="One Nation, Under God: America is a Christian Nation, You Aren&#039;t a Real American if you Don&#039;t Believe in God / Image © Austin Cline, Licensed to About; Original Poster: University of Georgia (http://fax.libs.uga.edu/wwpost/)" src="http://0.tqn.com/d/atheism/1/7/H/z/2/UnderGod01.jpg" title="One Nation, Under God: America is a Christian Nation, You Aren&#039;t a Real American if you Don&#039;t Believe in God / Image © Austin Cline, Licensed to About; Original Poster: University of Georgia (http://fax.libs.uga.edu/wwpost/)" width="240" /></a>Religionists <em>love</em> to look for easy targets to indoctrinate and/or convert. One group of people they&#8217;ve traditionally gone after, is your basic captive audience: <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/public-school-prayer/" title="Posts tagged 'public school prayer'">School children.</a> Toward that end, a bipartisan cadre of religionist lawmakers in Florida have cooked up yet another bill that &#8212; if it became law &#8212; would put prayer into public schools in Florida, and end up forcing public school kids to pray, whether or not they or their parents wish it. <a href="http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/12/2586823/senate-panel-approves-school-prayer.html" title="Miami Herald / Senate panel approves school prayer bill">The <em>Miami Herald</em> reports on this militant</a> Christianist effort (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/64lmpaQRE" title="WebCite cached version of M.H. article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>A bill that would allow voluntary, student-led prayer in secondary schools sailed through the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday – but not before meeting resistance from Anti-Defamation League officials, who called the bill “unnecessary, divisive and unconstitutional.”
<p>Said sponsor Sen. Gary Siplin, D-Orlando: “All I’m trying to do is allow those School Boards and those students who want to partake in this type of activity [the opportunity] to do that.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Siplin and the bill&#8217;s other sponsors have fallen for the myth that it&#8217;s currently impossible for anyone to pray in public schools. At the moment, anyone &#8212; students, faculty, employees, visitors, etc. &#8212; in any public school in the country can, in fact, pray any time s/he wants to. It is not illegal to do so, and there&#8217;s no need for any law to be passed to enable it. I expect a lot of praying goes on in schools all over the country &#8230; especially around exam time.
<p>What&#8217;s not permitted is when school staff lead students in prayer. This was established by the US Supreme Court in a number of decisions, most especially <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/engel-v-vitale" title="Engel v. Vitale (Answers.Com)"><em>Engel v. Vitale</em> (1962)</a> and <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/abington-school-district-v-schempp" title="Abington School District v. Schempp (Answers.Com)"><em>Abington School Dist. v. Schempp</em> (1963)</a>, among others. This means that FL Senate Bill 98 and House Bill 317 would be unconstitutional, even if they were to become law. The <em>Herald</em> even points this out by citing a related precedent:<br />
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<p>Passing the legislation may not be that easy. In 2009, a federal court struck down school prayer in Santa Rosa County in northwest Florida.</p></blockquote>
<p>The law seems to have been written with a wink and a nod in the direction of trying to skirt Constitutional limitations:<br />
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<p>Student volunteers would have to lead the prayers or benedictions, and school personnel would not be permitted to partake.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is transparent, however; if the principal were to stick a child in front of an assembly or a microphone, s/he would effectively be directing the prayer. Using the child as an agent would, moreover, be cowardly in the extreme.
<p>Also, the maneuver of merely &#8220;enabling&#8221; school boards to lead students in prayer, rather than <em>directing</em> them to do so, is likewise transparent. If you think for a moment that a lot of Florida&#8217;s schools won&#8217;t leap at the chance to ram religion down the throats of kids, you&#8217;re sorely mistaken; <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2011/08/12/more-decalogue-worship-in-cross-city-fl/" title="More Decalogue Worship In Cross City FL">I already blogged about the godly folk</a> in Cross City FL who&#8217;ve stated they were willing to defy court orders to remove a Decalogue idol from their courthouse steps.
<p>The article ended with this precious little tidbit:<br />
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<p>“God bless y’all,” [Siplin] told senators after the vote. “I’m praying for you.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I hope Siplin realizes that, in saying this, he violated <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/12/19/christmas-and-public-displays-of-piety/" title="Christmas And Public Displays Of Piety">Jesus&#8217; explicit and unmistakable command</a> never to engage in public piety (see <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206:1-6&#038;version=NASB" title="Matthew 6:1-6 (BibleGateway.Com)">Matthew 6:1-6</a> among other gospel passages). These militant Christianists really need to stop disobeying their own Jesus.
<p>But of course, we all know damned well they won&#8217;t!
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/01/17/florida-legislators-want-to-pass-bill-to-promote-school-prayer/" title="Friendly Atheist / Florida Legislators Want to Pass Bill to Promote School Prayer"><strong>Friendly Atheist</strong></a>.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://atheism.about.com/od/religiousright/ig/Christian-Propaganda-Posters/One-Nation-Under-God.--3V.htm" title="About Atheism / One Nation, Under God: America is a Christian Nation"><strong>Austin Cline/About Atheism</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>The Religion Of Love Shows Its True Colors!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been known to refer to Christianity facetiously as &#8220;the Religion of Love,&#8221; because while its adherents claim to be loving, peaceful and gentle, when push comes to shove &#8212; and especially where they think their God is concerned &#8212; they&#8217;re anything but loving, peaceful or gentle. Offended Christians easily forget the &#8220;love&#8221; the founder [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/IMG_2584.png"><img align="right" src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/IMG_2584.png" alt="Screen shot of Zach the Dog (@Zachthedogg) tweet: 'Fuck Jessica alquist I'll drop anchor on her face'" title="Screen shot of Zach the Dog (@zachthedogg) tweet: 'Fuck Jessica alquist I'll drop anchor on her face'" width="220" class="size-full wp-image-5537" /></a>I&#8217;ve been known <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/why-the-religion-of-love/" title="Why “The Religion Of Love”?">to refer to Christianity facetiously</a> as &#8220;the Religion of Love,&#8221; because while its adherents claim to be loving, peaceful and gentle, when push comes to shove &#8212; and especially where they think their God is concerned &#8212; they&#8217;re anything but loving, peaceful or gentle. Offended Christians easily forget the &#8220;love&#8221; the founder of their religion taught them and rationalize hatred, intolerance, and even violence in his name.
<p>The latest example of this all-too-common phenomenon comes in the wake of <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/judge-rules-against-prayer-banner-in-ri-school/2012/01/13/gIQA6rOjwP_story.html" title="Washington Post On Faith blog / Judge rules against prayer banner in R.I. school">a court decision ordering the removal of a giant prayer banner</a> in a public high school in Rhode Island (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/64fl1KOoZ" title="WebCite cached version of WaPo article">WebCite cached article</a>). You see, in the wake of that decision, quite a number of supposedly-loving Christians have unleashed a great deal of fury at the atheist student who brought the case, Jessica Ahlquist. A pair of bloggers <a href="http://jesusfetusfajitafishsticks.blogspot.com/2012/01/ahlquist-screenshots-if-by-christian.html" title="JesusFetusFajitaFishsticks / [AHLQUIST SCREENSHOTS] If by "Christian love" you mean hatred &#038; contempt...">has cataloged a number of Facebook and Twitter comments made by Christians</a>, and they are &#8230; well, I&#8217;ll let you decide (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/64flSIlqz" title="WebCite cached version of JesusFetusFejitaFishsticks post">cached</a>):<br />
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<p>It is apparent that Christians only believe in tolerance so long as their religion is allowed to violate the constitution.
<p>Well, I&#8217;ve grown tired of just being tolerated and I will not be tolerating the stomach-churning hatred that&#8217;s continuously espoused by those doing the &#8220;tolerating.&#8221;
<p>These are those comments&#8230; some of them anyway.. I hope you&#8217;re reading them on an empty stomach.</p></blockquote>
<p>A small sample of the abundant Christian &#8220;love&#8221; being showered down on Ms Ahlquist appears below. Read these, and be impressed with all of that &#8220;love.&#8221;
<div align="center"><a href="http://jesusfetusfajitafishsticks.blogspot.com/2012/01/ahlquist-screenshots-if-by-christian.html"><img align="center" alt="Screen shot of Ryan A Simoneau &trade; (@Ry_Simoneau) tweet: &#039;I want to punch the girl in the face that made west take down the school prayer #Honestly&#039;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-671fN22_WH0/Tw-6AmnIlgI/AAAAAAAAAPE/sJ_HcNJ9nXI/s400/Screenshot_53.png" title="Screen shot of Ryan A Simoneau &trade; (@Ry_Simoneau) tweet: &#039;I want to punch the girl in the face that made west take down the school prayer #Honestly&#039;" width="400" height="62" /></a></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://jesusfetusfajitafishsticks.blogspot.com/2012/01/ahlquist-screenshots-if-by-christian.html"><img alt="Screen shot of Cracked Lens (@zombiecamera) tweet: &#039;@jessicaahlquist your home address got posted online i can&#039;t wait to hear about you getting curb stomped you fucking worthless cunt&#039;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-S9AUh-V7qE8/Tw-6VF-XpWI/AAAAAAAAAQA/sDZjJ1CPdvk/s400/Screenshot_61.png" title="Screen shot of Cracked Lens (@zombiecamera) tweet: &#039;@jessicaahlquist your home address got posted online i can&#039;t wait to hear about you getting curb stomped you fucking worthless cunt&#039;" width="400" height="56" /></a></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://jesusfetusfajitafishsticks.blogspot.com/2012/01/ahlquist-screenshots-if-by-christian.html"><img alt="Screen shot of Alexandra Vachon (@Alexandra_x7) tweet: &#039;@G_Cimarelli if I wasn&#039;t 18 and wouldn&#039;t go to jail i&#039;d beat the shit out her idk how she got away with not getting beat up yet" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7aWNEXULCRQ/Tw-6yZRiMQI/AAAAAAAAARI/bKDxZXlkgb0/s400/Screenshot_67.png" title="Screen shot of Alexandra Vachon (@Alexandra_x7) tweet: &#039;@G_Cimarelli if I wasn&#039;t 18 and wouldn&#039;t go to jail i&#039;d beat the shit out her idk how she got away with not getting beat up yet" width="400" height="106" /></a></div>
<p>Surely this is precisely the behavior Jesus had in mind, when he said all of the following:<br />
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<p>You have heard that it was said, &#8216;An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.&#8217; But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205:38-40&#038;version=NASB" title="Matthew 5:38-40 / NASB (BibleGateway.Com)">Mt 5:38-40</a>)
<p>You have heard that it was said, &#8216;You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.&#8217; But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205:43-45&#038;version=NASB" title="Matthew 5:43-45 / NASB (BibleGateway.Com)">Mt 5:43-45</a>)
<p>Then Jesus said to him, &#8220;Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword.&#8221; (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2026:52&#038;version=NASB" title="Matthew 26:52 / NASB (BibleGateway.Com)">Mt 26:52</a>)
<p>Whoever hits you on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takes away your coat, do not withhold your shirt from him either. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%206:29&#038;version=NASB" title="Luke 6:29 / NASB (BibleGateway.Com)">Lk 6:29</a>)
<p>But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%206:35&#038;version=NASB" title="Luke 6:35 / NASB (BibleGateway.Com)">Lk 6:35</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>I suggest all these enraged Christians pick up their damn Bibles and read them. For the first time in their lives, if needed. Sheesh.
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/01/13/so-this-is-christian-love/" title="Friendly Atheist / So This Is Christian Love?"><strong>Friendly Atheist</strong></a>.
<p>Photo credit (for all images in this post): <a href="http://jesusfetusfajitafishsticks.blogspot.com/2012/01/ahlquist-screenshots-if-by-christian.html" title="JesusFetusFajitaFishsticks"><strong>JesusFetusFajitaFishsticks</strong></a>.
<p>P.S. Hemant Mehta, the Friendly Atheist, has set up a scholarship &#8220;Chipin&#8221; for Jessica. If you feel like sticking it to all those furious militant Christianists, do it constructively by making a donation:<br /><embed allowScriptAccess="always" src="http://widget.chipin.com/widget/id/8d0a74d899b36f56" flashVars="color_scheme=blue" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="250" height="250"></embed></p>
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		<title>Santorum Says Gay Marriage Equals Polygamy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 22:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Religious Rightists seem to lose their microscopic little minds when it comes to marriage &#8230; or more specifically, gay marriage. They hate it, and they don&#8217;t want gays to marry, but they have trouble articulating any rational reasons for their subjective distaste for it. The most recent example of their stupidity and ignorance about this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="Gage Skidmore [CC-BY-SA-3.0 (www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0)], via Wikimedia Commons" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3ARick_Santorum_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg"><img width="220" align="right" alt="Rick Santorum by Gage Skidmore" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Rick_Santorum_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg/256px-Rick_Santorum_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg"/></a>Religious Rightists seem to lose their microscopic little minds when it comes to marriage &#8230; or more specifically, gay marriage. They hate it, and they don&#8217;t want gays to marry, but they have trouble articulating any rational reasons for their subjective distaste for it. The most recent example of their stupidity and ignorance about this subject, came when GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum &#8212; the new &#8220;darling&#8221; of the Republican primary now that he&#8217;s had a near-win in the Iowa caucuses &#8212; <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-santorum-jeered-after-comparing-gay-marriage-to-polygamy-20120106,0,4108242.story" title="Los Angeles Times / Rick Santorum jeered after comparing gay marriage to polygamy">as reported by the <em>Los Angeles Times</em> tried to explain to a college audience</a> why he thought gays should not be allowed to marry (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/64Uxw8a5D" title="WebCite cached version of LA Times article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Santorum is an ardent, outspoken opponent of gay marriage, favoring an amendment to the Constitution that would define marriage as solely between a man and a woman. He received a rough welcome from a group of college Republicans in Concord &#8212; and it likely didn’t help matters when he compared a same-sex union to polygamy.
<p>&#8220;Are we saying everyone should have the right to marry? So anyone can marry anyone else?&#8221; Santorum asked, according to a video by NBC News. &#8220;So anybody can marry several people?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Video of Santorum&#8217;s idiocy can be seen <a href="http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nbc-news-web-extra/45893445" title="NBC News / Video / Rick Santorum booed in contentious gay marriage exchange">courtesy of NBC News</a>:
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<p>The logical (and legal) problem with equating gay marriage with polygamy <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2008/05/17/observations-on-marriage-in-the-us/" title="Observations On Marriage In The US">is one I&#8217;ve pointed out before</a>, and that is that a gay marriage is still a contract between two people (as is a current &#8220;standard&#8221; heterosexual marriage), whereas a polygamous marriage involves several people. They&#8217;re fundamentally different, with polygamous marriages being <em>much</em> more complicated. They are just not the same.
<p>Although I&#8217;m pointing out that he said it, I must concede that Santorum&#8217;s &#8220;gay marriage equals polygamy&#8221; equation is not something he devised, it&#8217;s actually standard Religious Right rhetoric. However, when one couples this piece of stupidity with <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2011/03/02/rick-santorum-lies-about-the-crusades/" title="Rick Santorum Lies About The Crusades">his claim 10 months ago that the Crusades were not Christian &#8220;aggression,&#8221;</a> you clearly have a man who&#8217;s blithely unconcerned with facts of any kind and unburdened by rationality. On top of that, last weekend <a href="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/08/republicans-urge-covert-ops-against-iran-syria/" title="Raw Story / Republicans urge covert ops against Iran, Syria">Santorum said he thought the US should be <em>open</em> about</a> its <em>covert</em> operations in Iran (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/64UzrV97N" title="WebCite cached version of Raw Story article">cached</a>):<br />
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<p>“We need to say very clearly that we will be conducting covert activity to do everything we can to stop their nuclear program.</p></blockquote>
<p>I could be wrong, but last I knew, anything you were open and &#8220;clear&#8221; about cannot also remain &#8220;covert.&#8221; And if <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/10/01/computer-virus-with-biblical-roots/" title="Computer Virus With Biblical Roots?">the infamous Stuxnet cyberattack</a> hasn&#8217;t clued the world &#8212; and the Iranians, not to mention Mr Santorum &#8212; into the fact that the US is covertly trying to sabotage Iran&#8217;s nuclear-weapon efforts &#8230; well, then no amount of being &#8220;clear&#8221; about it is going to help.
<p>Either Rick Santorum is one of the stupidest people on earth, or he&#8217;s <em>acting</em> as though he is, just to play up to Christofascist GOP primary voters; but neither of these conclusions is very comforting.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3ARick_Santorum_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg" title="Rick Santorum / Gage Skidmore, via Wikimedia Commons"><strong>Wikimedia Commons</strong></a>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 2012 GOP presidential primary proceeds relentlessly. For many months the mass media have treated us to their &#8220;horse race&#8221; coverage, telling us who&#8217;s ahead, who&#8217;s behind, who collapsed, who&#8217;s surging, etc. It&#8217;s old and tired, and about to become more intense &#8212; and therefore even older and even more tired &#8212; with the Iowa [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/michele-bachmann-expecting-divine-intervention-to-win-iowa-caucuses/"><img align="right" src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ap_michele_bachmann_iowa_lt_111231_wblog-300x168.jpg" alt="Michele Bachmann in Iowa / Evan Vucci/AP Photo" title="Michele Bachmann in Iowa / Evan Vucci/AP Photo" width="260" class="size-medium wp-image-5474" /></a>The 2012 GOP presidential primary proceeds relentlessly. For many months the mass media have treated us to their &#8220;horse race&#8221; coverage, telling us who&#8217;s ahead, who&#8217;s behind, who collapsed, who&#8217;s surging, etc. It&#8217;s old and tired, and about to become more intense &#8212; and therefore even older and even more tired &#8212; with the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary coming up in the next 10 days.
<p>As it turns out, one of the previous media-declared &#8220;frontrunners,&#8221; MN Rep. Michele Bachmann, now ironically enters the caucuses in her native Iowa with no discernible chance of winning (she was overtaken months ago successively by Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, and lately even Rick Santorum). But the godly Mrs Bachmann hasn&#8217;t conceded defeat. Oh no! <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/michele-bachmann-expecting-divine-intervention-to-win-iowa-caucuses/" title="ABC News the Note / Michele Bachmann Expecting Divine Intervention to Win Iowa Caucuses">As reported in the ABC News &#8220;The Note&#8221; blog, she <em>knows</em> she&#8217;s going to win &#8212; because her God is going to</a> hand her the victory (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/64NXlvSgu" title="WebCite cached version of ABC article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Michele Bachmann told ABC News she expects to defy her dismal poll numbers with a “miraculous” result in the Iowa caucuses.
<p>“We’re going to see an astounding result on Tuesday night &#8212; miraculous,” Bachmann told ABC News in an interview at her Iowa campaign headquarters surrounded by young supporters from her alma mater Oral Roberts University.
<p>“We’re believing in a miracle because we know, I know, the one who gives miracles,” Bachmann said.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, Mrs Bachmann. Of course, the Almighty has nothing better to do with his infinite power and knowledge, than magically grant electoral victories to his most devout followers! Why, we know it happens, because <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/10/26/odonnell-says-prayer-improves-her-poll-results/" title="O’Donnell Says Prayer Improves Her Poll Results">the Almighty did the same for</a> Christine O&#8217;Donnell, who ran for the Senate from Delaware late last year.
<p>Oh wait. O&#8217;Donnell lost that! Woops, never mind.
<p>Folks, welcome to the &#8220;It&#8217;s All About <strong><em>ME</em>!</strong>&#8221; world of the avowed religionist. Hyperreligious people typically think of God as being connected <em>only</em> to themselves and to no one else. Their God&#8217;s universe is their own personal universe. In their eyes, the Almighty does everything <em>just for them</em>, because they&#8217;re oh-so-extra-special in his Almighty eyes. It&#8217;s a dysfunctional, irrational, and even immature way of looking at the world &#8212; nevertheless it&#8217;s all too common, even in grown adults like Mrs Bachmann.
<p><strong>Update:</strong> Not only did Mrs Bachmann <em>not</em> get her promised &#8220;miracle,&#8221; her results in the Iowa caucuses were so bad <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/04/politics/bachmann-campaign/index.html?hpt=hp_t1" title="CNN / Bachmann ends GOP presidential bid">that she was driven from the primaries</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/64RpA6BKJ" title="WebCite cached version of CNN article">cached</a>).Woops.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/michele-bachmann-expecting-divine-intervention-to-win-iowa-caucuses/" title="AP photo / Evan Vucci / via ABC News"><strong>AP via ABC News / Evan Vucci</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>Gingrich Puts His Ignorance On Display</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Newt Gingrich, the former House Speaker and current GOP candidate for president, is surging in the polls. Part of the reason is that he&#8217;s been cultivating the Religious Right, which largely ignores the fact that he&#8217;s been married three times, having cheated on two of his wives, including while he was trying to get Bill [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/eliel/5009787577/" title="Map of Ottoman Empire in 1901 by Eliel, on Flickr"><img align="right" src="http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4085/5009787577_f52c537d66.jpg" width="260" alt="Map of Ottoman Empire in 1901"></a>Newt Gingrich, the former House Speaker and current GOP candidate for president, is surging in the polls. Part of the reason is that he&#8217;s been cultivating the Religious Right, which largely ignores the fact that he&#8217;s been married three times, having cheated on two of his wives, including while he was trying to get Bill Clinton <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/impeachment-of-bill-clinton" title="Impeachment of Bill Clinton (Answers.Com)">run out of the White House</a> for having had an affair.<strong><a href="#hyp-fn" title="Footnote">*</a></strong> As part of his effort to build his reputation as a dutifully and devoutly Christian Rightist, the Newtster decided to court <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-zionism" title="Christian Zionism (Answers.Com)">the Christian Zionist movement</a>. Unfortunately, the way in which he chose to go about it, demonstrates conclusively that he&#8217;s a brazen ignoramus. <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57340513-503544/newt-gingrich-palestinians-are-invented-people/" title="CBS News / Newt Gingrich: Palestinians are 'invented' people">CBS News reports on his idiotic spew</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/63rg8OWjm" title="WebCite cached article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich said this week that Palestinians are an &#8220;invented&#8221; people, a position that could be seen as putting him at odds with the U.S. push for a two-state solution in the Middle East.
<p>&#8220;Remember, there was no Palestine as a state. It was part of the Ottoman Empire,&#8221; Gingrich told the Jewish Channel, which <a href="http://newsdesk.tjctv.com/2011/12/the-jewish-channel-exclusive-interview-with-gop-front-runner-and-former-speaker-of-the-house-newt-gingrich/" title="Jewish Channel / The Jewish Channel Exclusive Interview With GOP Front-Runner and former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich">posted portions of the interview online on Friday</a> [<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/63rhuhwl1" title="WebCite cached version of Jewish Channel article">cached</a>]. &#8220;And I think that we&#8217;ve have invented the Palestinian people, who are in fact Arabs and are historically part of the Arab community, and they had the chance to go many places.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s video of <a href="http://youtu.be/dHWJWJocD6A" title="Youtube / The Jewish Channel Exclusive Interview With Newt Gingrich Excerpt: 'Invented Palestinian People'">this part of the interview</a>, courtesy of the Jewish Channel and Youtube:
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<p>His criterion for what makes the Palestinian people &#8220;invented&#8221; and therefore ineligible to have their own state &#8212; i.e. that their land once had been part of the <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/ottoman-empire" title="Ottoman Empire (Answers.Com)">Ottoman Empire</a> &#8212; is more than a bit strange. After all, many countries that exist now, and have existed for a very long time, were also once part of the Ottoman Empire. Most of the Balkan states, for example, had once been under the Ottoman regime. The same goes for countries like Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Egypt, Tunisia, Armenia and even Hungary &#8230; just to name a few. By the standards the Newtster has laid down, these nations are <em>all</em> &#8220;invented peoples,&#8221; and none are entitled to statehood.
<p>In spite of his error, Gingrich is far too ideologically-driven (and too desperate to hold onto Christian Zionist primary voters) to admit his error. <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57340910-503544/gingrich-sticks-by-comment-calling-palestinians-invented-people/" title="CBS News / Gingrich sticks by comment calling Palestinians 'invented' people">He maintains he&#8217;s factually correct</a>, even though quite obviously he&#8217;s not (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/63rgyDOSv" title="WebCite cached article">cached</a>).
<p>Yes folks, even though he&#8217;s a history professor, Newt Gingrich doesn&#8217;t actually know anything about history. I only have a B.A. in the field, yet I know how catastrophically wrong the man is. His lie about the Palestinian situation places him in <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/" title="Posts tagged 'lying liars for Jesus'">my &#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>.
<p>One last thing: During the interview, Newt says:<br />
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<p>And for a variety of political reasons we have sustained this war against Israel since the 1940s.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have no idea who this &#8220;we&#8221; is that the Newtster claims has been waging a &#8220;war against Israel&#8221; all that time. Is he referring to the US? Somehow I doubt it, but I can&#8217;t imagine who else that &#8220;we&#8221; could possibly be.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/eliel/5009787577/" title="Eliel, via Flickr"><strong>Eliel</strong></a>.
<p>*<a name="hyp-fn"></a>&nbsp;The R.R.&#8217;s fondness for hypocrisy is well-known, but is strange, considering <a href="http://earlychristianhistory.info/extras/hypocrisy.html" title="Early Christian History / Extras / Hypocrisy in Christianity">the founder of their own religion clearly, explicitly, plainly and specifically <em>forbid</em> his followers</a> to be hypocritical, ever.</p>
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		<title>Rick Perry Says Obama Is Waging A &#8220;War On Religion&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 03:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Militant Christianist, Texas governor and GOP presidential candidate Rick Perry has released a commercial for his failing campaign. In an effort to get the media talking about him again after he flamed out in recent debates, he&#8217;s decided to wade into Christian-persecution territory, and as CNN reports, is making the bullshit claim that current President [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/help-help-im-being-repressed.jpg"><img align="right" src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/help-help-im-being-repressed-300x197.jpg" alt="Help! Help! I'm being repressed! (Dennis the constitutional peasant, Monty Python &amp; the Holy Grail)" title="Help! Help! I'm being repressed! (Dennis the constitutional peasant, Monty Python &amp; the Holy Grail)" width="260" class="size-medium wp-image-5416" /></a>Militant Christianist, Texas governor and GOP presidential candidate Rick Perry has released a commercial for his failing campaign. In an effort to get the media talking about him again after <a href="http://youtu.be/kTNjhcyx7dM?hd=1" title="Embarrassing Catastrophic Moment for Rick Perry- Forgets What He Wants To Say At Presidential (Youtube)">he flamed out in recent debates</a>, he&#8217;s decided to wade into <a href="http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/extras/martyr.html" title="Early Christian History / Extras / Christian Martyr Complex">Christian-persecution territory</a>, <a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/07/new-perry-ad-derides-obamas-war-on-religion/" title="CNN / New Perry ad derides Obama's 'war on religion'">and as CNN reports, is making the bullshit claim</a> that current President Barack Obama is at war with religion (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/63lgIwdAb" title="WebCite cached version of CNN article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Rick Perry says that if he&#8217;s elected president, he&#8217;ll end what he calls President Barack Obama&#8217;s &#8220;war on religion.&#8221;
<p>Perry makes the comments in a new TV commercial that&#8217;s sure to create controversy. &#8230;
<p>In an interview Wednesday with CNN&#8217;s Wolf Blitzer, Perry said he stood by the ad.
<p>&#8220;The administration is clearly sending messages to people of faith, and organizations of faith, that we&#8217;re not going to support you with federal dollars,&#8221; Perry said. &#8220;I&#8217;m very comfortable with that ad, for one thing. My faith is a part of me, and the values I learned in my Christian upbringing will affect my governing.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>You see, Christofascists like Perry have a strange definition of &#8220;persecution.&#8221; The president failing to obey the strictures of their metaphysics &#8212; you see &#8212; is an &#8220;attack&#8221; on them, and a &#8220;war&#8221; on their religion. To fail to obey them, is the virtual equivalent of a <em>physical attack</em> on their persons, and is also equivalent to an effort to abolish their faith.
<p>Of course, nothing could be further from the truth &#8230; but in his raging paranoia, Rickie-boy doesn&#8217;t understand that.
<p>Here, Rickie. Let me help you out. A <em>true</em> &#8220;war on religion&#8221; would include any of the following:
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<li>Churches being shuttered</li>
<li>Bibles removed from homes</li>
<li>Religious art being confiscated</li>
<li>Clergy being jailed</li>
<li>Crucifixes and crosses being seized</li>
<li>Arresting people for praying</li>
<li>And so on; you get the idea.</li>
</ul>
<p>President Obama is doing <em>none</em> of these things &#8212; not one of them! &#8212; and will <em>never</em> do so. For you to talk as though he is, Rickie-boy, is the worst sort of lie. It&#8217;s flatly untrue and it&#8217;s ridiculous for you to say it.
<p>Neverthless, I expect the Rickster will get a lot of traction out of this. The Religious Right in the US more or less believes exactly as he does &#8230; i.e. that refusing to obey their beliefs is the same as trying to utterly destroy them. Rickie-boy&#8217;s lies about Obama place him force me to list Perry as a member of <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/" title="Posts tagged 'lying liars for Jesus'">my &#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>.
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		<title>War On Christmas 2011, Part 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cue the sanctimonious rage, the accusations that Christmas is being outlawed in in one US state, the wild-eyed delusional claims of Christian persecution. And what, you may ask, sparked the furor that has lit up Fox News and Religious Right pundits around the country? Rhode Island governor Lincoln Chafee has named his statehouse&#8217;s decorated tree [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/alvesfamily/4186956474/" title="White House Christmas Tree in the Blue  Room. by alvesfamily, on Flickr"><img align="right" src="http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2737/4186956474_8a4db0fdf4.jpg" width="220" alt="White House Christmas Tree in the Blue  Room."></a>Cue the sanctimonious rage, the accusations that Christmas is being outlawed in in one US state, <a href="http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/extras/martyr.html" title="Early Christian History / Extras / Christian Martyr Complex">the wild-eyed delusional claims of Christian persecution</a>. And what, you may ask, sparked the furor that has lit up Fox News and Religious Right pundits around the country?
<p>Rhode Island governor Lincoln Chafee has named his statehouse&#8217;s decorated tree a &#8220;holiday tree,&#8221; and not a &#8220;Christmas tree.&#8221;
<p>Fortunately, <a href="http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_1201chafee_stands_by_pc_holiday_tree_says_its_rooted_in_ri_tradition" title="Boston Herald / Lincoln Chafee stands by PC 'holiday tree'">as the <em>Boston Herald</em> reports, Chafee has no intention of caving in</a> to the Religious Right caterwauling and wailing over his choice of labels (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/64NRTvKwV" title="WebCite cached version of BH article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>A beaming Rhode Island Gov. Lincoln Chafee calmly weathered a cross-country Christmas controversy yesterday, standing by his PC pronouncement that the 17-foot spruce in the State House rotunda is a “holiday tree” as outraged residents cried foul.
<p>Taking the Christmas out of the tree is in the Rhode Island spirit, Chafee said, invoking the 1663 Colonial charter and the legacy of state father Roger Williams.
<p>“I’m just continuing what other governors have done,” Chafee told the Herald after dedicating a separate tree to soldiers who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. “I just want to make sure I’m doing everything possible in this building to honor Roger Williams.”</p></blockquote>
<p>For any of my readers who don&#8217;t understand the importance of Rhode Island&#8217;s history and how it specifically relates to the idea of separating church and state, R.I.&#8217;s founder, <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/roger-williams" title="Roger Williams (Answers.Com)">Roger Williams</a>, was a Baptist minister who&#8217;d endured Puritan persecution in the Massachusetts colony, found refuge among the Narragansett to the south, and established his own colony on the premise of religious liberty. He penned <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/the-bloudy-tenent-of-persecution-for-cause-of-conscience" title="The Bloudy Tenent of Persecution for Cause of Conscience (Answers.Com)"><em>The Bloudy Tenent of Persecution</em></a>, a treatise promoting religious tolerance and freedom of conscience, including Christian-scriptural support. Rhode Island, perhaps more than any other state, has a heritage of religious tolerance. So Chafee is not overstating his reasons for insisting on &#8220;holiday tree&#8221; instead of &#8220;Christmas tree.&#8221;
<p>Besides, since Christmas is a &#8220;holiday,&#8221; it is <em>never</em> semantically wrong to call a &#8220;Christmas tree&#8221; a &#8220;holiday tree.&#8221; If it weren&#8217;t for the modern Christian custom of putting up Christmas trees, there would be no &#8220;holiday tree&#8221; in the Rhode Island statehouse, so it hardly matters what the governor calls it; as New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick would say, &#8220;It is what it is.&#8221; The militant Christianist outrage over this is just ridiculous. People really need to fucking grow up.
<p>P.S. Having mentioned Roger Williams, I&#8217;d like to add something important. Thomas Jefferson is frequently named as the man who coined the phrase &#8220;separation of church and state&#8221; (in <a href="http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html" title="Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists (Library of Congress)">his famous 1802 letter to the Danbury CT Baptists</a>). But in fact, he didn&#8217;t. Roger Williams did. In <a href="http://books.google.com/books/about/The_bloudy_tenent_of_persecution.html?id=IL8MAAAAIAAJ" title="The Bloudy Tenent of Persecution by Roger Williams (Google Books)"><em>Bloudy Tenent</em></a>, he wrote:<br />
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<p>When they [the Church] have opened a gap in the hedge or wall of separation between the garden of the church and the wilderness of the world, God hath ever broke down the wall itself, removed the Candlestick, etc., and made His Garden a wilderness as it is this day.</p></blockquote>
<p>Given how well-read Jefferson was, it&#8217;s not safe to assume he couldn&#8217;t have been inspired by Williams.
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/12/01/rhode-island-governor-im-calling-it-a-holiday-tree/" title="Friendly Atheist / Rhode Island Governor: I’m Calling It a ‘Holiday Tree’!"><strong>Friendly Atheist</strong></a>.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/alvesfamily/4186956474/" title="alvesfamily, via Flickr"><strong>alvesfamily</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>Robertson Says Obama Has Muslim &#8220;Inclination&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 14:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s been a while since I blogged about famed Christianist Marion &#8220;Pat&#8221; Robertson. I&#8217;d thought perhaps he&#8217;d mellowed with age, but it turns out that&#8217;s not the case. He&#8217;s still the same boorish idiot we&#8217;ve always known him to be. Right Wing Watch and the Huffington Post recently reported on his most recent remarks about [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/pat-robertsons-2011-divine-prediction-america-is-in-grave-peril/"><img alt="Marion &#039;Pat&#039; Robertson, via Mediaite" src="http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Screen-shot-2011-01-04-at-2.25.18-PM-300x207.png" title="Marion &#039;Pat&#039; Robertson, via Mediaite" width="260" align="right" /></a>It&#8217;s been a while since I blogged about famed Christianist Marion &#8220;Pat&#8221; Robertson. I&#8217;d thought perhaps he&#8217;d mellowed with age, but it turns out that&#8217;s not the case. He&#8217;s still the same boorish idiot we&#8217;ve always known him to be. <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/17/pat-robertson-obama-muslim_n_1099741.html" title="Huffington Post / Pat Robertson: Obama Has A Muslim 'Inclination'">Right Wing Watch and the Huffington Post recently reported on his most recent remarks about President Obama during</a> an appearance on the 700 Club (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/63Kwag8sI" title="WebCite cached version of HuffPo article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Televangelist Pat Robertson <a href="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/robertson-says-obama-has-muslim-inclination" title="Right Wing Watch / Robertson Says Obama Has A Muslim 'Inclination'">revived conspiratorial talk</a> about President Obama&#8217;s childhood Thursday, claiming that he was driven by some sort of Muslim inclination because of his upbringing in Indonesia. &#8230;
<p>&#8220;They say he&#8217;s going back to the place that he spent his childhood, he spent four years in Indonesia, I don&#8217;t know if he was trained in a madrassa, one of those Muslim schools, but nevertheless that is his inclination,&#8221; Robertson claimed, during a discussion about Obama <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/17/world/asia/indonesia-obama-trip/" title="CNN / Obama attends Asian summit, hails plane sales deal">attending the ASEAN conference in Indonesia</a>.
<p>These claims about the religious nature of his schools have been debunked. In fact, according to a <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/09/world/asia/09indo.html" title="New York Times / Obama Visits a Nation That Knew Him as Barry"><em>New York Times</em></a> report [<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/63L0VouEM" title="WebCite cached version of NYT article">cached</a>], one school he attended was Roman Catholic, while the other was a prestigious and wealthy primary school founded by Dutch colonialists. Obama has also <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/28/obama-christian-by-choice_n_742124.html" title="Huffington Post / Obama 'Christian By Choice': President Responds To Questioner">frequently repeated</a> that he is a Christian who attends church.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ymiMWjlPI&#038;hd=1" title="Youtube / Robertson: Obama Has Muslim Inclination">a Youtube video of</a> Robertson&#8217;s remarks:
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<p>Note how clever Robertson is with this. He admits he doesn&#8217;t really know the circumstances of Obama&#8217;s youth in Indonesia, but blathers on about it anyway; and he says merely that Obama has a Muslim &#8220;inclination,&#8221; an indefinite enough word that no one can call him out on it, while his target audience (which presumably thinks Obama is a Muslim) will hear it as &#8220;<a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/03/23/24-of-republicans-14-of-americans-think-obama-is-antichrist/" title="24% Of Republicans, 14% Of Americans Think Obama Is Antichrist">Obama is a Muslim</a>,&#8221; thus confirming &#8212; in their minds &#8212; what they already believed. Yet Robertson will be able to say, and with literal truth, that he never said &#8220;Obama is a Muslim.&#8221;
<p>P.S. I don&#8217;t normally use ideological machines like Huff or RWW as sources; but in this case <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ymiMWjlPI&#038;hd=1" title="Youtube / Robertson: Obama Has Muslim Inclination">the Youtube video above</a> substantiates what&#8217;s reported.
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://forums.delphiforums.com/skepticheretic/messages?msg=1561.1" title="Skeptics and Heretics Forum / Post 1561.1"><strong>Mark at Skeptics &amp; Heretics Forum</strong> on Delphi Forums</a>.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/pat-robertsons-2011-divine-prediction-america-is-in-grave-peril/" title="Mediaite / Pat Robertson’s 2011 Divine Prediction: America “Is In Grave Peril”"><strong>Mediaite</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>Catholic Bishops Claim Government Is Destroying Them</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[America&#8217;s Catholic bishops have had enough of not being in control. They&#8217;ve taken their gloves off and slapped them down. At issue &#8212; they say &#8212; is their &#8220;religious liberty.&#8221; In yet another expression of the Christian martyr complex, they&#8217;re griping and bellyaching that they no longer have the influence they once did; that government [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jianghao1/869133149/" title="crying baby by Jianghao1, on Flickr"><img align="right" src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1251/869133149_37c18fd538.jpg" width="260" alt="crying baby"></a>America&#8217;s Catholic bishops have had enough of not being in control. They&#8217;ve taken their gloves off and slapped them down. At issue &#8212; they say &#8212; is their &#8220;religious liberty.&#8221; In yet another expression of <a href="http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/extras/martyr.html" title="Early Christian History / Christian Martyr Complex">the Christian martyr complex</a>, they&#8217;re griping and bellyaching that they no longer have the influence they once did; that government is no longer bending over for them on demand; and that society is leaving them behind. <a href="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/11/catholic-bishops-religion-abuse-liberty-/1" title="USA Today Faith &amp; Reason / Bishops: Secular forces attack religious liberty"><em>USA Today</em>&#8216;s Faith &amp; Reason blog reports on their latest</a> petulant, sniveling whine (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/63Cb75IId" title="WebCite cached version of USA Today article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>The U.S. Catholic bishops Monday blasted &#8220;aggressive secularism&#8221; and the Obama administration for attacking the Church &#8212; and all believers &#8212; on religious liberty by curtailing the voices of faith in the public square. &#8230;
<p>Their leader, New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan, told the annual gathering of 300 prelates to employ their passion for Jesus and the Church to face down the &#8220;chilling statistics&#8221; of people leaving the church and the cultural onslaught of critics of the Church.</p></blockquote>
<p>The bishops are carrying the standard of &#8220;religious liberty,&#8221; because in their minds, their &#8220;freedom of religion&#8221; equates with &#8220;everyone in the country doing whatever they say.&#8221; Anyone who insolently dares not to follow the strict dogma of Roman Catholicism is &#8212; by <em>their</em> definition &#8212; <em>depriving them</em> of their religious liberty.
<p>Well, boo fucking hoo, bishops. Your &#8220;religious liberty&#8221; stops at your own front doors; it does not entitle you to control the lives of anyone else. Grow the fuck up and stop presuming the power to tell everyone &#8212; Catholic or not &#8212; what they can or cannot do. OK?
<p>If you think my refusal to obey you somehow diminishes your &#8220;religious liberty,&#8221; well then &#8230; by all means, <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/02/24/new-page-a-non-believers-manifesto/" title="New Page: “My Non-Believer’s Manifesto”">I invite you</a> to come right here and assert your control over me. Go ahead. <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/a-non-believers-manifesto/" title="My Non-Believer’s Manifesto">I dare you.</a> Do it. Now!
<p>If you cannot or will not do so, then you&#8217;re all just a bunch of crybaby cowards who just want to weep and wail that you aren&#8217;t getting your way any more. Well, too fucking bad, your Excellencies. The Roman Catholic Church <em>did</em> run the show, once upon a time &#8230; but the rest of humanity outgrew that. The Catholic Church doesn&#8217;t control the occidental world any longer. The sooner you accept that, they better off you&#8217;ll be.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jianghao1/869133149/" title="Jianghao1, via Flickr"><strong>Jianghao1</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>War On Christmas 2011, Part 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s that time of year again, folks. The time when the Religious Right gets its knickers twisted into knots over their delusion that Christmas either has been, or soon will be, outlawed in the U.S. This &#8220;war on Christmas&#8221; trope is usually good for about a dozen blog posts each year, and likely will continue [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/julianb/1907643/" title="a flickr christmas card by julian-, on Flickr"><img align="right" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/2/1907643_595e5bfed2.jpg" width="260" alt="a flickr christmas card"></a>It&#8217;s that time of year again, folks. The time when the Religious Right gets its knickers twisted into knots over their delusion that Christmas either has been, or soon will be, outlawed in the U.S. This <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/war-on-christmas/" title="Posts tagged 'war on christmas'">&#8220;war on Christmas&#8221;</a> trope is usually good for about a dozen blog posts each year, and likely will continue to be &#8230; because the R.R. is so predictably outraged over this manufactured controversy.
<p><a href="http://www.aledotimesrecord.com/news/x1691081197/Rep-Walsh-introduces-Save-Christmas-Act" title="Aledo Times Record / Rep. Walsh introduces 'Save Christmas Act'">The <em>Aledo</em> (IL) <em>Times Record</em> reports that Congressman Joe Walsh has proffered what he calls the &#8220;Save Christmas Act&#8221;</a> in an effort to &#8220;defend&#8221; his supposedly-beleaguered holiday (<a href="http://www.aledotimesrecord.com/news/x1691081197/Rep-Walsh-introduces-Save-Christmas-Act" title="WebCite cached version of Times Record article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Yesterday, Congressman Joe Walsh (IL-8) introduced the ‘Save Christmas Act’ to permanently end the Obama Administration’s new tax on Christmas trees. This tax was established to fund yet another unnecessary government board, the Christmas Tree Promotion Board.  This is clearly the most ridiculous in a long list of new taxes and regulations proposed by the Obama Administration.
<p>Walsh stated: “The sheer audacity of a tax on Christmas trees is ridiculous.  Are we going to start taxing Halloween candy and pumpkins or turkey and apple pie?  Are we going to tax the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny too?  Are we going to tax hotdogs and hamburgers and American flags for the Fourth of July?</p></blockquote>
<p>There are actually several problems with this. Yes, the proposal to levy a 15&cent; fee per tree sold on sellers of live Christmas trees was a genuine one. And it was announced by the U.S. Dept. of Agriculture recently. However, <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/christmastree.asp" title="O Christmas Fee (Snopes.Com)">as Snopes makes clear</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/63AIzzZzK" title="WebCite cached version of Snopes article">cached</a>), it is not a &#8220;tax.&#8221; Rather, it&#8217;s a cooperative program &#8212; first requested <em>by the Christmas-tree-growing industry</em>, I might add! &#8212; intended to promote the sale of live Christmas trees.
<p>Of course, these little facts didn&#8217;t get in the way of the Right-wing flaring up with sanctimonious outrage. In light of this shitstorm, the White House quickly put the kibosh on this idea &#8230; even though those who raged and railed against it were angry for all the wrong reasons. If the Right-wing fury over this supposed &#8220;Christmas tree tax&#8221; was predictable, so too was the Obama administration&#8217;s eagerness to cave into it.
<p>But beyond the problem of the Right&#8217;s outrage over this being counter-factual, is that even the scenario they were telling themselves was in play &#8212; i.e. that Obama and his evil cohorts were taxing Christmas trees in order to hinder the celebration of Christmas by Christians around the country &#8212; makes absolutely no sense! A 15&cent; tax is nowhere near enough to put a dent into sales of Christmas trees, which normally cost upwards of $20; and it wouldn&#8217;t have been limited just to real trees, artificial ones would have been &#8220;taxed&#8221; too.
<p>Time to get over yourselves, Christians, and grow the fuck up. Not everything is intended to abolish your religion and/or its trappings. Really. Moreover, if you guys are really fans of the private sector and want to help industry, you&#8217;d have <em>supported</em> this 15&cent;-per-tree fee, because it was the Christmas tree industry itself that originally came up with it!
<p>P.S. There&#8217;s almost nothing truly or genuinely &#8220;Christian&#8221; about Christmas trees, as I explain <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/myths-about-christmas-in-the-u-s/" title="Myths About Christmas In The U.S.">in my page on the myths about Christmas that</a> the R.R. clings to so irrationally.
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve long said that most Christians like to view themselves as being persecuted for their religion. This tendency seems to be proportional to their devoutness: The more ardently they believe, the more firmly they&#8217;re convinced they&#8217;re being attacked because of their faith. It&#8217;s a desire that goes back almost to the very start of Christianity. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title='St Stephen, first Christian martyr, by Giacomo Cavedone [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons' href='http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:StStephen_GiacomoCavedone.jpg'><img width='220' alt='St Stephen, first Christian martyr, by Giacomo Cavedone' align='right' src='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/StStephen_GiacomoCavedone.jpg'/></a>I&#8217;ve long said that most Christians <a href="http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/extras/martyr.html" title="Early Christian History / Extras / Christian Martyr Complex">like to view themselves as being persecuted</a> for their religion. This tendency seems to be proportional to their devoutness: The more ardently they believe, the more firmly they&#8217;re convinced they&#8217;re being attacked because of their faith. It&#8217;s a desire <a href="http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/extras/martyr.html" title="Early Christian History / Extras / Christian Martyr Complex">that goes back almost to the very start of Christianity</a>. After all, Christians are taught that the founder of their religion was persecuted and ultimately executed because of what he believed and taught, and so too were all of his apostles. It stands to reason that martyrdom is the highest aspiration for any Christian.
<p>While it&#8217;s true that, at some points in history (and even in a few places right now) there are Christians who are being persecuted for their religion, reality is that <em>no</em> Christian anywhere in the occidental world is being persecuted for his/her beliefs. It just doesn&#8217;t happen. Christianity is still the dominant religion in the occidental world; it&#8217;s impossible for someone of a majority religion to be persecuted for belonging to it. Nevertheless, devout Christians still are psychopathologically driven to view themselves as being persecuted for Jesus. This means that, essentially, they cook up fictional scenarios in which they&#8217;re being attacked &#8212; essentially, <em>they delude themselves</em> into thinking they&#8217;re being harassed for Jesus. In fact, they aren&#8217;t, but to a religionist, facts don&#8217;t matter. All that matters to them is that feeling of being &#8220;attacked.&#8221; To them, it&#8217;s a <em>very <strong>real</strong></em> sensation.
<p>The latest example of this <a href="http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/extras/martyr.html" title="Early Christian History / Extras / Christian Martyr Complex">false martyrdom</a> being called down <a href="http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/10/anita-perry-husband-rick-perry.html" title="Dallas Morning News / Anita Perry: Husband Rick Perry "brutalized" by media, the GOP because of his faith">is reported by the <em>Dallas Morning News</em>; Anita Perry, wife of GOP presidential candidate Rick Perry</a>, complained that her husband is being &#8220;brutalized&#8221; by the media &#8212; and pretty much everyone else in the world (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/62XKtUUXT" title="WebCite cached version of a DMN article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Anita Perry, campaigning for husband Rick Perry in South Carolina , suggests he&#8217;s been &#8220;brutalized&#8221; by the media and the GOP because of his faith. &#8230;
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s been a rough month. We have been brutalized and beaten up and chewed up in the press to where I need this today. We are being brutalized by our opponents, and our own party. So much of that is, I think, they look at him because of his faith. He is the only true conservative &#8212; well, there are some true conservatives. And they&#8217;re there for good reasons. And they may feel like God called them too. But I truly feel like we are here for that purpose.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Mrs Perry either cannot or will not admit that maybe &#8212; just maybe! &#8212; her husband has come under fire because <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2011/08/06/rick-perrys-christofascist-response/" title="Rick Perry’s Christofascist 'Response'">he&#8217;s a raging militant Christofascist</a>, or because <a href="http://www.factcheck.org/2011/09/factchecking-the-reagan-debate/" title="FactCheck.Org / FactChecking the Reagan Debate">he lied about Social Security being a</a> &#8220;Ponzi scheme,&#8221; or because <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2011/10/09/sectarianism-tearing-the-fabric-of-the-religious-right/" title="Sectarianism Tearing The Fabric Of The Religious Right">one of his most prominent supporters claimed</a> that Mormonism is a &#8220;cult&#8221; and that Mormons are not Christians.
<p>Oh no. That couldn&#8217;t possibly be the case! Perry&#8217;s recent troubles <em>can <strong>only</strong> be happening</em> because he&#8217;s the <em>only</em> &#8220;&#8216;Real&#8217; Christian&trade;&#8221; in the GOP field, so <em>everyone</em> on the planet is <em>attacking him</em> over it. Why, the poor man is being &#8220;brutalized&#8221; because of his religion!
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, but the verb &#8220;to brutalize&#8221; brings to mind someone who&#8217;s been pummeled and kicked and pounded into submission &#8230; not a politician who&#8217;s been merely criticized for his own excesses. It&#8217;s hard to know whether or not Mrs Perry is serious about this. After all, it&#8217;s not common to run into someone as thoroughly delusional as this &#8230; so one&#8217;s initial impulse is to wonder whether or not she&#8217;s making it up in order to draw sympathy. Even so, it&#8217;s not to their religion&#8217;s credit that militant Christians find such delusional sanctimony attractive.
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		<title>Sectarianism Tearing The Fabric Of The Religious Right</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was inevitable, I suppose, that a religious-political movement such as the Religious Right is, would eventually show some sectarian cracks in its edifice. The R.R. was originally established by Southern Baptists &#8212; that wing of the American Baptists who, in the years leading up to the Civil War, accommodated and embraced slavery, whereas Baptists [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/115878103421385539917/DallasHistoricStructures#5537009125610239346"><img align="right" alt="First Baptist Church of Dallas 1891 by Albert Ullrich" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8OVOTo9wYE0/TNdodqIYNXI/AAAAAAAAVYo/sHq4oqT325U/s640/_K2O7850.JPG" title="First Baptist Church of Dallas 1891 by Albert Ullrich" width="220" /></a>It was inevitable, I suppose, that a religious-political movement such as the Religious Right is, would eventually show some sectarian cracks in its edifice. The R.R. was originally established by <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/southern-baptist-convention-2" title="Southern Baptist Convention (Answers.Com)">Southern Baptists</a> &#8212; that wing of the American Baptists who, in the years leading up to the Civil War, accommodated and embraced slavery, whereas Baptists (and in fact, most Protestants generally) elsewhere in the country condemned it. Since its beginnings in the 1980s, other types of Christians have latched onto and made themselves part of the R.R. movement, but it basically remains in the control of evangelical Protestants of the Southern Baptist variety.
<p>Among the consequences of this is the fact that Mormons, who were among the denominations that glommed onto the R.R., are finding themselves at odds with the rest of the movement. Initially one might be surprised at this. After all, Mormons are very, <em>very</em> conservative, and faithfully hew to the line of other &#8220;social conservatives.&#8221; That they would find themselves marginalized as part of the R.R., is because the S.B.C has never really cared for Mormons or the LDS church, <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/life/faithbased/2007/12/southern_baptists_vs_the_mormons.single.html" title="Slate / Southern Baptists vs. the Mormons">and has a history of campaigning against</a> them (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/62Jgf6HJo" title="WebCite cached version of Slate article">WebCite cached version</a>).
<p>With former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, a Mormon, a leader among the large rabble of Republican candidates for president in 2012, this rivalry has roared to the fore. A megachurch pastor and supporter of Romney&#8217;s rival, Texas governor Rick Perry, recently commented that &#8220;Mormonism is a cult&#8221; and said that Mormons are not Christians. He caught some flack over this, but <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/09/us-usa-campaign-jeffress-idUSTRE7982DV20111009" title="Reuters / Texas pastor stands ground on "cult" comment about Mormons">as Reuters reports, he&#8217;s digging his heels in</a> and has not given up on the matter (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/62JfFKpeB" title="WebCite cached version of Reuters article">cached</a>):<br />
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<p>An unapologetic Pastor Robert Jeffress, who created a stir for calling Mormonism a &#8220;cult&#8221; at a political gathering, told hundreds of congregants at his Texas megachurch on Sunday that he welcomed the opportunity he&#8217;s had to warn people about a &#8220;false religion.&#8221;
<p>&#8220;I have not changed my position,&#8221; Jeffress told the crowd of about 2,000 attending the early service at First Baptist Church of Dallas.
<p>The TV evangelist and prominent religious leader spent the last two days defending statements he made to reporters at a conservative gathering on Friday in Washington DC, in which he called Mormonism a &#8220;cult&#8221; just minutes after introducing and endorsing Texas Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry.</p></blockquote>
<p>This should provide a warning to other elements of the R.R. who aren&#8217;t evangelical Protestants; you, too, could find yourselves excluded by sectarian sentiment. It&#8217;s not just Mormons who could be frozen out, Catholics &#8212; especially because the American bishops have hitched their political car to the R.R. train &#8212; might very well end up being denounced as idolators or &#8220;Mary-worshippers&#8221; in the same way that Mormons are condemned as being part of a &#8220;cult.&#8221;
<p>The lesson is clear: Religious movements of any kind almost always break down along sectarian lines. It&#8217;s foolish to assume it cannot happen.
<p>Lastly, there&#8217;s something that desperately needs to be cleared up, which many people aren&#8217;t aware of. Mormonism is most certainly a form of Christianity. As a religion, it reveres the life and teachings of Jesus Christ. In this regard the LDS Church is every bit as &#8220;Christian&#8221; as any other Christian denomination on earth. That the Mormons don&#8217;t view Jesus or God precisely as other types of Christians do, cannot and will never change this fact. It just means their form of Christianity is different from that of others. Nothing more than that.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/115878103421385539917/DallasHistoricStructures#5537009125610239346" title="Bryan Amann, via Picasaweb">Bryan Amann via Picasaweb</a>.</p>
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		<title>Bay Minette AL Churchgoers Have &#8220;Get Out Of Jail Free&#8221; Card</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deep in the heart of the Bobble Bay-elt (also known as &#8220;the Bible Belt&#8221;), in the town of Bay Minette, Alabama, the local sheriff has come up with a clever way to increase church attendance and incentivize crime by churchgoers. The Mobile Press-Register reports that people convicted of non-violent crimes can go to church instead [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/swanksalot/6021773639/" title="Get Out of Jail Free by swanksalot, on Flickr"><img align="right" src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6088/6021773639_8c72c9946d.jpg" width="260" alt="Get Out of Jail Free"></a>Deep in the heart of the Bobble Bay-elt (also known as &#8220;the Bible Belt&#8221;), in the town of Bay Minette, Alabama, the local sheriff has come up with a clever way to increase church attendance and incentivize crime by churchgoers. <a href="http://blog.al.com/live/2011/09/bay_minette_alternative_senten.html" title="Mobile Press-Register / Alabama court's church or jail sentencing option draws ACLU ire, national attention">The Mobile <em>Press-Register</em> reports that people convicted of non-violent crimes can go to church instead of</a> to jail (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/61wf1a6FU" title="WebCite cached version of Press-Register article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>A new alternative sentencing program offering first-time, nonviolent offenders a choice of a year of church attendance or jail time and fines is drawing fire from the American Civil Liberties Union as well as national attention, officials said Friday. &#8230;
<p>But the local police chief who is heading up the program starting Tuesday called &#8220;Restore Our Community&#8221; says no one is being forced to participate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Forced? No. But what it means is that any regular churchgoers effectively won&#8217;t serve any prison sentences. It&#8217;s also inherently selective, since those who don&#8217;t belong to a church cannot choose to participate. This policy&#8217;s proponent explains his motivation:<br />
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<p>&#8220;Operation ROC resulted from meetings with church leaders,&#8221; Bay Minette Police Chief Mike Rowland said.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Of course</em> the local preachermen like this idea, it will get more people through their doors and more collections in their plates! They stand to profit from this. The religiofascist continues idiotically:<br />
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<p>&#8220;It was agreed by all the pastors that at the core of the crime problem was the erosion of family values and morals. We have children raising children and parents not instilling values in young people.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah. I see. So there was no crime, way back when everyone was a devout, dutiful, church-going Christian. Is that it? Christians don&#8217;t commit crimes. Is that it?
<p>Do you truly expect that we&#8217;re stupid enough to believe this, Chief Rowland? Especially since it&#8217;s <em>demonstrably <strong>untrue</strong></em> that being Christian means one never commits crimes? Lots of Christians &#8212; including some who are famous because they&#8217;re Christian &#8212; are indeed criminals. I need only mention names such as <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/jim-bakker" title="Jim Bakker (Answers.Com)">Jim Bakker</a>, <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/jimmy-swaggart" title="Jimmy Swaggart (Answers.Com)">Jimmy Swaggart</a>, and <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/ted-haggard" title="Ted Haggard (Answers.Com)">Ted Haggard</a> &#8230; just to name a few &#8230; in order to show this is the case.
<p>Religiofascists like Chief Rowland love to assert that churchgoing Christians don&#8217;t commit crimes, but they absolutely do. Crimes like embezzlement, fraud, buying the services of prostitutes, taking illegal drugs, and <em>much</em> more. The truth is that America&#8217;s prisons contain many, many Christians. It&#8217;s absurd and laughable that anyone could say otherwise &#8230; yet Chief Rowland does. And he means it.
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/09/24/churchgoing-christians-in-alabama-are-literally-getting-a-get-out-of-jail-free-card/" title="Friendly Atheist / Churchgoing Christians in Alabama Are Literally Getting a ‘Get Out of Jail Free’ Card"><strong>Friendly Atheist</strong></a>.
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		<title>Religious Right Candidates Tussle Over &#8220;Promiscuity Vaccine&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The recent &#8220;tea party&#8221; sponsored GOP presidential debate has kicked up some testiness within the Religious Right over the simple matter of a vaccine. Yes, that&#8217;s right, a vaccine. As the New York Times explains, this controversy concerns TX governor Rick Perry&#8217;s support for vaccinating all girls in his state against HPV or human papilloma [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8499561@N02/2755481069/" title="Syringe 5 With Drops by ZaldyImg, on Flickr"><img align="right" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3280/2755481069_30d94b89a5.jpg" width="260" alt="Syringe 5 With Drops"></a>The recent <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/2012-fix-face-off/2011/09/13/gIQAzMNJPK_blog.html" title="Washington Post 'The Fix' blog / 2012 Fix Face-Off: The Tea Party debate">&#8220;tea party&#8221; sponsored GOP presidential debate</a> has kicked up some testiness within the Religious Right over the simple matter of a vaccine.
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s right, <em>a vaccine</em>.
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/14/us/politics/republican-candidates-battle-over-hpv-vaccine.html" title="New York Times / In Republican Race, a Heated Battle Over the HPV Vaccine">As the <em>New York Times</em> explains, this controversy concerns TX governor Rick Perry&#8217;s support</a> for vaccinating all girls in his state against HPV or human papilloma virus (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/61gO9pfK9" title="WebCite cached version of NYT article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>An unlikely issue — whether to vaccinate preadolescent girls against a sexually transmitted virus — has become the latest flashpoint among Republican presidential candidates as they vie for the support of social conservatives and Tea Party members.
<p>The issue exploded Monday night when Representative Michele Bachmann and former Senator Rick Santorum attacked Gov. Rick Perry of Texas during a debate for issuing an executive order requiring sixth-grade girls to be vaccinated against the human papillomavirus, criticizing the order as an overreach of state power in a decision properly left to parents. Later, Sarah Palin, who has yet to announce her 2012 intentions, also found fault with Mr. Perry.</p></blockquote>
<p>This particular controversy is multi-pronged, as the <em>Times</em> explains:<br />
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<p>The issue pushes many buttons with conservatives: overreach of government in health care decisions, suspicion that sex education leads to promiscuity and even the belief &#8212; debunked by science &#8212; that childhood vaccinations may be linked to mental disorders.</p></blockquote>
<p>The militant Ms Bachmann insisted that the problem was the &#8220;dangerous&#8221; nature of the vaccine, however, the HPV vaccine was approved a number of years ago and its safety is not at issue. Rather, from the time it was approved &#8212; <a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1206813,00.html" title="Time / Defusing the War Over the 'Promiscuity' Vaccine">as <em>Time</em> magazine reported then</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/61gPPMJjb" title="WebCite cached version of Time article">cached</a>) &#8212; it became a target of the Religious Right, having been tagged &#8220;the promiscuity vaccine.&#8221; They can claim concern with the vaccine&#8217;s &#8220;safety&#8221; all they want &#8230; but really, their sole concern is women&#8217;s health and depriving them of control over their own affairs. We already know that <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/12/22/catholic-church-teaches-pregnant-women-should-die/" title="Catholic Church Teaches Pregnant Women Should Die">the Roman Catholic Church considers the lives of pregnant women forfeit</a> and of no account; the mostly-Protestant Religious Right more or less agrees with this position.
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s true: Christianists like Bachmann actually believe it&#8217;s better for women to contract illnesses caused by HPV, including deadly cancers, rather than innoculate them early in life, merely because they perceive that it grants girls license to be sexually active. The idea that an HPV virus does so, of course, is completely laughable; it prevents only HPV-borne illnesses, it has no effect on other STD&#8217;s, and it doesn&#8217;t prevent pregnancy.
<p>It just goes to show that facts and reason don&#8217;t matter to the Religious Right, just their emotional assessments, irrational beliefs, and slavish devotion to laughable dogmas.
<p>Lastly, I&#8217;d like to give Gov. Perry, whom I generally dislike, some credit here. In the name of promoting health and fighting cancer, he&#8217;s taking on his own co-religionists and seems rather determined about it. I only hope he doesn&#8217;t cave in to them.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8499561@N02/2755481069/" title="ZaldyImg, via Flickr"><strong>ZaldyImg</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>Violent Neocrusaders Can&#8217;t Stop TN Mosque Construction</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I already blogged about the mosque under construction in Mufreesboro, TN which was burned to the ground. And Tennessee&#8217;s Neocrusaders kept up their campaign against the project. But as CNN&#8217;s Belief Blog reports, their efforts have been for naught; the mosque is going to be built after all (locally-cached version): It has taken months, but [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/mosque.t1larg.jpg"><img align="right" src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/mosque.t1larg-300x168.jpg" alt="The Islamic Center of Murfreesboro has faced intense local opposition over plans to construct a new mosque. / CNN" title="The Islamic Center of Murfreesboro has faced intense local opposition over plans to construct a new mosque. / CNN" width="260" class="size-medium wp-image-5139" /></a><a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/09/03/arson-at-tennessee-mosque-construction-site/" title="Arson At Tennessee Mosque Construction Site">I already blogged about</a> the mosque under construction in Mufreesboro, TN which was burned to the ground. And Tennessee&#8217;s <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/neocrusaders/" title="Posts tagged 'neocrusaders'">Neocrusaders</a> kept up their campaign against the project. But <a href="http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/02/embattled-tennessee-mosque-to-move-forward-with-construction/" title="CNN Belief Blog / Embattled Tennessee mosque to move forward with construction">as CNN&#8217;s Belief Blog reports, their efforts have been for naught</a>; the mosque is going to be built after all (<a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Embattled-Tennessee-mosque-to-move-forward-with-construction-%E2%80%93-CNN-Belief-Blog-CNN.com-Blogs-20110910.jpg" title="Locally cached version of CNN article">locally-cached version</a>):<br />
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<p>It has taken months, but leaders of an embattled Murfreesboro, Tennessee, mosque say that construction of a new facility could start as soon as next month.
<p>The Islamic Center of Murfreesboro has existed for more than a decade. As it surpassed 1,000 worshippers, its members planned to build a new 52,000-square-foot structure with a mosque, gym, playground and cemetery.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Neocrusaders certainly did put up a fight, though, using the aforementioned arson and vandalism, as well as lawsuits, and intimidating potential contractors:<br />
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<p>Some contractors weren&#8217;t willing to take the job. Mosque leaders said contractors told them it had become too much of a hot-button issue and presented too much of a risk to their business and equipment. Several contractors began the bidding process but never finished.
<p>Mosque officials said a contractor told them that he needed the work but that the leaders of his own church were against the new Islamic center.
<p>&#8220;I had a contractor tell me, &#8216;I don&#8217;t want to get on bad terms with my preacher,&#8217;&#8221; said Essam Fathy, a member of the Islamic Center&#8217;s board of directors.</p></blockquote>
<p>This isn&#8217;t surprising, since it happened in Tennessee, the state whose <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/07/27/tn-lt-gov-supports-freedom-of-religion-except-for-muslims/" title="TN Lt Gov Supports Freedom Of Religion, Except For Muslims">lieutenant governor once proudly declared that there is no</a> freedom of religion for Muslims in the U.S.
<p>Surely this is <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/why-the-religion-of-love/" title="Why 'the Religion of Love'?">the Religion of Love</a> at work, isn&#8217;t it? (That&#8217;s a little sarcasm, folks.) Way to go, people. Way to go. Your Jesus would have been so proud, I&#8217;m sure. Really.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/02/embattled-tennessee-mosque-to-move-forward-with-construction/" title="CNN / Vandalized sign"><strong>CNN Belief Blog</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>Disaster Theology From Michele Bachmann</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 23:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Demonstrating that religionistic stupidity doesn&#8217;t have any gender boundaries, Congresswoman, GOP presidential candidate and religiofascist Michele Bachmann tossed out a little &#8220;disaster theology&#8221; at a rally in Sarasota, Florida. It was mentioned only near the end of a St Petersburg Times article on this event (WebCite cached article): [Bachmann said] &#8220;I don&#8217;t know how much [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gageskidmore/5554668299/" title="Michelle Bachmann by Gage Skidmore, on Flickr"><img align="right" src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5029/5554668299_5b10121891.jpg" width="260" alt="Michelle Bachmann"></a>Demonstrating that religionistic stupidity doesn&#8217;t have any gender boundaries, Congresswoman, GOP presidential candidate and religiofascist Michele Bachmann tossed out a little &#8220;disaster theology&#8221; at a rally in Sarasota, Florida. It was mentioned only <a href="http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/michele-bachmann-rally-draws-over-1000-in-sarasota-but-some-prefer-rick/1188559" title="St Petersburg Times / Michele Bachmann rally draws over 1,000 in Sarasota, but some prefer Rick Perry">near the end of a <em>St Petersburg Times</em> article on this</a> event (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/61JIxRqod" title="WebCite cached version of a St Pete Times article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>[Bachmann said] &#8220;I don&#8217;t know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We&#8217;ve had an earthquake; we&#8217;ve had a hurricane. He said, &#8216;Are you going to start listening to me here?&#8217; Listen to the American people because the American people are roaring right now. They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we&#8217;ve got to rein in the spending.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Video of her statement <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/michele-bachmann-god-is-trying-to-get-politicians-attention-via-natural-disasters/" title="Mediaite / Michele Bachmann: God Is Trying To Get Politicians’ Attention Via Natural Disasters (video originally by WSMV-TV)">comes from WSMV-TV in Nashville, via Mediaite</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/61JJbEaeo" title="WebCite cached version of a Mediaite article">cached</a>):
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<p>In Bachmann&#8217;s world, the Almighty &#8212; you see &#8212; can get the attention of politicians <em>only</em> by sending a deadly and destructive hurricane around. He has <em>no other choice</em>, apparently, and can&#8217;t come up with any other means of communication with them. He can only communicate by causing widespread devastation.
<p>I guess. Somehow. I must have missed when &#8220;omnipotence&#8221; was redefined from &#8220;the power to do anything at all at any time&#8221; to &#8220;unable to do things except in <em>one</em> way&#8221; &#8230; ?
<p>Bachmann&#8217;s office <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/62235.html" title="Politico / Michele Bachmann: It was a joke!">claims she had said it &#8220;in jest&#8221; in order to</a> make a point (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/61JK49NXg" title="WebCite cached version of a Politico article">cached</a>). I for one am nowhere near stupid enough to buy that little evasion. I don&#8217;t see the slightest bit of humor in her delivery, and no one in the crowd reacted as though they&#8217;d just heard a joke. Her office will have to look a little harder to find someone dumb enough to believe that sniveling excuse.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gageskidmore/5554668299/" title="Flickr / Gage Skidmore"><strong>Gage Skidmore</strong> via Flickr</a>.</p>
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		<title>Disaster Theology From Patty Robertson</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 01:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the more frequent employers of the &#8220;disaster theology&#8221; tactic is Marion &#8220;Pat&#8221; Robertson. You know, the guy who thought the Haiti earthquake was the result of God having cursed that country for having thrown off the yoke of French colonialism, and who agreed with the Reverend Falwell that the September 11, 2001 attacks [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/26/pat-robertson-washington-monument-crack-god_n_938075.html"><img align="right" src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/r-PAT-ROBERTSON-WASHINGTON-MONUMENT-large570-300x125.jpg" alt="Televangelist Pat Robertson said he thought the crack in the Washington monument caused by the August 23 earthquake could be a sign from God. / AP photo via Huffington Post" align="right" title="Televangelist Pat Robertson said he thought the crack in the Washington monument caused by the August 23 earthquake could be a sign from God. / AP photo via Huffington Post" width="300" height="125" class="size-medium wp-image-5112" /></a>One of the more frequent employers of the &#8220;disaster theology&#8221; tactic is <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/pat-robertson" title="Pat Robertson (Answers.Com)">Marion &#8220;Pat&#8221; Robertson</a>. You know, the guy who thought the Haiti earthquake was <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/01/13/pat-robertson-hyperreligious-cretin/" title="Pat Robertson, Hyperreligious Cretin">the result of God having cursed that country</a> for having thrown off the yoke of French colonialism, and <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A28620-2001Sep14" title="Washington Post / God Gave U.S. 'What We Deserve,' Falwell Says">who agreed with the Reverend Falwell that the September 11, 2001 attacks happened because of</a> the ACLU, feminists, and gays (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/61EqP6gGZ" title="WebCite cached version of WaPo article">WebCite cached article</a>; audio available <a href="http://www.skepdic.com/sounds/falwell.mp3" title="Skeptic's Dictionary / MP3 audio of Falwell and Robertson's ignorant spew">here</a>.).
<p>It seems Patty-boy can&#8217;t get enough of his disaster theology; <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/under-god/post/pat-robertson-dc-earthquake-means-were-closer-to-the-coming-of-the-lord/2011/08/25/gIQASklEeJ_blog.html" title="Washington Post On Faith / Pat Robertson: D.C. earthquake 'means we're closer to the coming of the Lord'">according to the <em>Washington Post</em> On Faith blog, Robertson did it again</a>, with respect to the <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/2011-virginia-earthquake" title="2011 Virginia earthquake">Virginia earthquake</a> a few days ago (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/61EqP6gGZ" title="WebCite cached version of WaPo article">cached</a>):<br />
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<p>Pat Robertson, natural disaster interpreter extraordinaire, said on Wednesday&#8217;s 700 Club that the earthquake that struck the Washington region Tuesday &#8220;means that we&#8217;re closer to the coming of the Lord.&#8221;
<p>On Thursday&#8217;s broadcast, Robertson pointed to the damage to the Washington Monument in the earthquake as a possible &#8216;sign&#8217; from God:<br />
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<p>&#8220;It seems to me the Washington Monument is a symbol of America&#8217;s power. It has been the symbol of our great nation. We look at the symbol and we say &#8216;this is one nation under God.&#8217; Now there&#8217;s a crack in it&#8230; Is that sign from the Lord? &#8230; You judge. It seems to me symbolic.”</p></blockquote>
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<p>The idea that any given catastrophe is a signal that Jesus is finally coming back, is as old as Christianity itself, dating back at least to the evangelists:<br />
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<p>The televangelist Wednesday cited Matthew&#8217;s Gospel, and the earthquake&#8217;s “upheaval in the earth” as a sign that the End Times are nearing. Natural disasters, war and “one world government,” Robertson said, citing Scripture, are all “birth pangs” of the world to come.</p></blockquote>
<p>So you see, there&#8217;s nothing original here. This is really just &#8220;End Times&#8221; talk that no rational person need bother paying attention to. The problem is, there are too many <em>ir</em>rational people in the US, and many of them are, sadly, paying attention to jabbering ignoramuses like Patty Robertson. Even worse &#8230; a lot of them <em>vote</em>!
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://forums.delphiforums.com/skepticheretic/messages?msg=1496.7" title="Skeptics and Heretics Forum post number 1496.7"><strong>Mark at Skeptics &amp; Heretics Forum</strong> on Delphi Forums</a>.</p>
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		<title>&#8220;Subservient&#8221; Vs. &#8220;Submissive,&#8221; Does It Really Matter?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 01:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With Christofascist Michele Bachmann leaping to the fore of the pack of Religious Rightists who are climbing all over each other to become the Republican candidate for president next year, and she being a rigid fundamentalist Christian, I suppose it was inevitable that the scriptural role of women in Christianity (especially in Bachmann&#8217;s version of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gageskidmore/5434898583/" title="Michele Bachmann by Gage Skidmore, on Flickr"><img align="right" src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4149/5434898583_7fea20fb30.jpg" width="260" alt="Michele Bachmann"></a>With Christofascist Michele Bachmann leaping to the fore of the pack of Religious Rightists who are climbing all over each other to become the Republican candidate for president next year, and she being a rigid fundamentalist Christian, I suppose it was inevitable that the scriptural role of women in Christianity (especially in Bachmann&#8217;s version of it) would come up. She appeared on all the Sunday shows &#8212; since she won the more or less useless <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/ames-straw-poll" title="Ames, IA Straw Poll (Answers.Com)">Iowa Straw Poll</a> &#8212; and addressed this on Face the Nation, <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/14/ftn/main20092175.shtml" title="Bachmann: 'Submissive' doesn't mean subservient">as CBS News reports</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/60wb6GmaW" title="WebCite cached version of CBS News article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Appearing on &#8220;Face the Nation&#8221; Sunday, Rep. Michele Bachmann stood by her comment in Thursday&#8217;s Republican debate that when she said that wives should be submissive to their husbands, she meant that married couples should have mutual respect.
<p>In 2006, Bachmann said her husband had told her to get a post-doctorate degree in tax law. &#8220;Tax law? I hate taxes,&#8221; she continued. &#8220;Why should I go into something like that? But the lord says, be submissive. Wives, you are to be submissive to your husbands.&#8217;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Naturally, therefore, this dutiful scriptural Christian wife did precisely as her husband had told her to do. In other words, she was obedient. However, when questioned on this, Bachmann said something very different:<br />
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<p>&#8220;I respect my husband, he respects me,&#8221; she said. &#8220;We have been married 33 years, we have a great marriage&#8230;and respecting each other, listening to each other is what that means.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, but I don&#8217;t see how &#8220;obedience&#8221; can be &#8220;mutual,&#8221; a word which implies &#8220;equality.&#8221; Continued questions only caused Bachmann to fall into even more ridiculous semantic claims:<br />
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<p>&#8220;Do you think submissive means subservient?&#8221; O&#8217;Donnell asked.
<p>&#8220;Not to us,&#8221; Bachmann said. &#8220;To us it means respect. We respect each other, we listen to each other, we love each other and that is what it means.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately, neither &#8220;submissive&#8221; nor &#8220;subservient&#8221; even comes close to implying the kind of equanimity that Bachmann outlines in that last sentence.
<p>Those not familiar with fundamentalist Christianity may not understand what this is all about. It comes from two Bible verses, nearly identical, found in two different <a href="http://gbgm-umc.org/umw/corinthians/deutero.stm" title="Deutero-Pauline and Pastoral Epistles / United Methodist Women Web site">deutero-Pauline</a> epistles &#8212; Ephesians 5:22 and Colossians 3:18. These are translated into English variously:<br />
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<p>Ephesians 5:22
<p>Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%205:22&#038;version=NASB" title="Ephesians 5:22 / NASB / BibleGateway.Com">New American Standard Bible</a>)<br />Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%205:22&#038;version=KJV" title="Ephesians 5:22 / KJV / BibleGateway.Com">King James Version</a>)<br />Wives should be subordinate to their husbands as to the Lord. (<a href="http://www.usccb.org/bible/scripture.cfm?bk=Ephesians&#038;ch=5" title="Ephesians chapter 5 / NAB / U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops Web site">New American Bible</a>)
<p>Colossians 3:18
<p>Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians%203:18&#038;version=NASB" title="Colossians 3:18 / NASB / BibleGateway.Com">NASB</a>)<br />Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians%203:18&#038;version=KJV" title="Colossians 3:18 / KJV / BibleGateway.Com">KJV</a>)<br />Wives, be subordinate to your husbands, as is proper in the Lord. (<a href="http://www.usccb.org/bible/scripture.cfm?bk=Colossians&#038;ch=3" title="Colossians chapter 3 / NAB / U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops Web site">NAB</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>In the original Greek, these verses are as follows (courtesy of <a href="http://unbound.biola.edu/" title="Unbound Bible / BIOLA">Unbound Bible</a>):<br />
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<p>&alpha;&iota; &gamma;&upsilon;&nu;&alpha;&iota;&kappa;&epsilon;&sigmaf; &tau;&omicron;&iota;&sigmaf; &iota;&delta;&iota;&omicron;&iota;&sigmaf; &alpha;&nu;&delta;&rho;&alpha;&sigma;&iota;&nu; &upsilon;&pi;&omicron;&tau;&alpha;&sigma;&sigma;&epsilon;&sigma;&theta;&epsilon; &omega;&sigmaf; &tau;&omega; &kappa;&upsilon;&rho;&iota;&omega; (Ephesians 5:22)
<p>&alpha;&iota; &gamma;&upsilon;&nu;&alpha;&iota;&kappa;&epsilon;&sigmaf; &upsilon;&pi;&omicron;&tau;&alpha;&sigma;&sigma;&epsilon;&sigma;&theta;&epsilon; &tau;&omicron;&iota;&sigmaf; &iota;&delta;&iota;&omicron;&iota;&sigmaf; &alpha;&nu;&delta;&rho;&alpha;&sigma;&iota;&nu; &omega;&sigmaf; &alpha;&nu;&eta;&kappa;&epsilon;&nu; &epsilon;&nu; &kappa;&upsilon;&rho;&iota;&omega; (Colossians 3:18)</p></blockquote>
<p>The Greek word in question, then, is &upsilon;&pi;&omicron;&tau;&alpha;&sigma;&sigma;&epsilon;&sigma;&theta;&epsilon;, a form of the verb &upsilon;&pi;&omicron;&tau;&alpha;&sigma;&sigma;&omega; which can mean any of the following: &#8220;to submit to,&#8221; &#8220;place under,&#8221; &#8220;be subordinate to,&#8221; &#8220;to obey,&#8221; &#8220;be under the authority of,&#8221; etc. but which is assuredly related to &upsilon;&pi;&omicron;&tau;&iota;&mu;&omega;, which means &#8220;to abase.&#8221; Not one of these possible meanings of &upsilon;&pi;&omicron;&tau;&alpha;&sigma;&sigma;&omega; comes anywhere near to expressing the kind of equanimity or mutuality that Bachmann suggests it means. In fact, the context of the verse &#8212; <em>both</em> in Greek <em>and</em> in English translation &#8212; only further confirms that it means anything but equality, and that is in the mention of &#8220;lordship&#8221; (e.g. &#8220;as unto the Lord&#8221; or &tau;&omega; &kappa;&upsilon;&rho;&iota;&omega;). The concept being conveyed in both verses is that the husband-&amp;-wife relationship is the equivalent of the Jesus-Christ-to-his-Church relationship, in which the latter is decidedly subject to (or subordinate to, or under the authority of, however you want to say it) the latter. There is absolutely <em>no</em> equality, either stated or implied, in either of these verses. Not one iota of it. (Pun intended.)
<p>The bottom line of both these verses is that wives &#8212; and by extension, all women &#8212; constitute a second-class within Christianity. No other interpretation of these verses makes any sense, because the exact words here cannot be construed to mean anything else &#8212; <em>if</em> one assumes (as Bachmann and her fellow fundamentalists supposedly do) that the Bible can <em>only</em> be read <em>strictly</em> and <em>literally</em>. If on the other hand one assumes these epistles were written by mere human beings, and specifically by male authors trying to propound their authority over women &#8230; well &#8230; that&#8217;s something else.
<p>Really, this whole idiotic episode is just Bachmann&#8217;s way of veering out of the way of the strict scriptural directive that women are to be subordinate to men, so that she can then justify running for president, an office in which she would have authority over men (if she were elected). There&#8217;s no way around it.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gageskidmore/5434898583/" title="Michele Bachmann, by Gage Skidmore / Flickr"><strong>Gage Skidmore</strong> / Flickr</a>.</p>
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