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Pat Robertson / Mediaite / Pat Robertson Concludes Sikh Temple Shooting Because ‘Atheists Hate God’The Aurora massacre was only a few hours old when a Religiofascist Congressman giddily declared that “attacks” on religion were to blame for it … in spite of the fact that, even now — weeks later — no one is yet quite sure what caused James Holmes to gun down a bunch of people in a movie theater. Well, the Sikh Temple shooting was likewise just a few hours old, when, as Mediaite reports, Christofascist televangelist Marion “Pat” Robertson announced that atheists’ hatred of God had caused it (WebCite cached article):

On his 700 Club program Monday morning, televangelist Pat Robertson came to the conclusion that Sunday morning’s Sikh temple massacre in Oak Creek, Wisc., was ultimately because “atheists hate God.”

“What is it?” Robertson wondered aloud. “Is it satanic? Is it some spiritual thing?”

“People who are atheists, they hate God, they hate the expression of God,” he continued. “And they are angry with the world, angry with themselves, angry with society and they take it out on innocent people who are worshipping God.”

It’s curious Patty-boy would be so sure that the late accused shooter, Wade Michael Page, was an “atheist” who’d decided to “take it out on innocent people who are worshipping God.” Aside from the fact that the guy appears to have been a vocal white supremacist (cached), not a lot else is known about his motives. And there’s absolutely no evidence he was an atheist. Even though white supremacy has its origins in certain fringe Christian beliefs, I’m not yet willing to blame this shooting on religiosity. So why is Patty Robertson so quick to blame it on areligion or anti-religion? I have no idea. Do you?

I’d like to point out an obvious flaw in Patty-boy’s reasoning: he said that atheists “hate God.” But by definition, atheists don’t believe in God. It’s literally not possible for them to “hate” something they don’t even believe in.

I’ll end by asking an open question of my religious readers (and I know there are some of you out there): Have you had enough, yet, of this kind of bilious sewage that streams freely from the mouths of people who claim to speak for you? When do any of you plan to put your collective feet down and stop vermin like Robertson and Gohmert from spewing this kind of sick lunacy? This kind of bullshit is now standard fare when any of these kinds of events happen. Why have you permitted that to happen? When are you finally going to grow some cojones and put an end to these cretins’ antics?

The fact that this is so commonplace means you no longer have any excuses for refusing to act to prevent it. What you will not stop — and what you know is sure to happen — you tacitly support. As I’ve said any number of times already: If you don’t think enough of your own religion to police it and keep its spokespeople in line, you can’t expect outside observers such as myself to respect it, or to respect you for believing in it. Either take responsibility for your religion … or just admit you like hearing this crap. The choice is yours.

My guess is, while a lot of you would say you don’t like hearing it, secretly, you actually do. Of course, it would be rather easy for you to prove me wrong on that. I invite you to do so! Please, go right ahead.

Hat tip: Friendly Atheist.

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Police are seen outside a Century 16 movie theater where as many as 12 people were killed and dozens more injured in a shooting during a midnight showing of 'The Dark Knight Rises,' in Aurora, Colo., July 20, 2012. Author: Edecio Martinez. Credit: AP Photo/Ed Andrieski. Via CBS News.By now you’ve heard about the shooting last night/early this morning in Aurora CO. I knew some sanctimoniously-enraged Religious Rightist would find a way to blame it on irreligion, but I honestly didn’t think it would take only a few hours. But as CBS News reports, Republican Congressman Louie Gohmert did precisely that (WebCite cached article):

In a radio interview Friday morning, Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert of Texas associated the Colorado mass shooting that’s left at least 12 people dead to “attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs.”…

Host Ernest Istook asked Gohmert, “What is your experience with the way that we have too many twisted minds in our society?”…

The congressman continued, “And what really gets me as a Christian is to see the ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs and then some senseless crazy act of a derelict takes place.”

There you have it. According to Gohmert, this shooting happened because “Judeo-Christian beliefs” have somehow been “attacked.” At the moment, no one really knows what drove the accused killer to do it … but Louie-boy is unaware of that. He — and he alone — in all the universe has managed to determine accused killer James Holmes’s motive! Oh, and he added this militant little quip:

Gohmert also wondered during the interview, “With all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying a gun that could have stopped this guy more quickly?”

Apparently Louie-boy thinks many more bullets flying in many more directions in the crowded setting of a theater complex packed to the gills with Dark Knight Rises premiere moviegoers, would have been a good idea. I honestly don’t know how that works … but apparently Gohmert does.

What a fucking moron this guy is. Louie-boy’s militant religiosity has robbed him of his brains. Not that it’s entirely surprising … the Religious Right long ago lost its collective mind, and has been wallowing in insanity and idiocy for years.

Update: Yesterday’s incident near the Empire State Building in New York City should serve as a warning to Gohmert and the many other Wild West-loving gun-freaks who think a shootout would have been a good idea: All nine of the people wounded there, were hit by police firing back at the gunman (cached). During the Aurora shooting, Holmes had body armor on, which means the number of bystanders endangered would have been that much higher. What a fucking moron Gohmert is.

Photo credit: AP Photo/Ed Andrieski, via CBS News.

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crying-babyThe Christofascist and Neocrusading preacher Terry Jones, head of the Gainesville, FL church which goes by the ill-fitting name of Dove World Outreach Center, is the gift that just keeps on giving. He seems to throw crybaby tantrums almost regularly. His antics over burning Qur’ans are legendary … so legendary that they’ve triggered numerous riots and murders on the other side of the world in Afghanistan. He seethes with anger over the fact that there is such a thing as Islam and that there are Muslims who dare believe in that religion, and reject his own militant fundamentalist Christianity.

It seems, though, that — in spite of his ferocious rage over the existence of Islam — Jones has managed to find a new enemy to bluster and fume about: President Barack Obama. The Smoking Gun reports that Jones and his church have hung the president in effigy, over this support for abortion rights and gay marriage (WebCite cached article):

The Florida pastor who ignited an international furor by threatening to burn a pile of Korans has applied his subtle touch to the 2012 presidential campaign by constructing a gallows from which a likeness of President Barack Obama now hangs in effigy.

The display in the front yard of Terry Jones’s Dove World Outreach Center (DWOC) in Gainesville features a dummy wearing an Obama mask hanging from a yellow noose. Along with an American flag and a rainbow-striped gay pride flag, the scene includes an Uncle Sam dummy and a child’s doll hanging from the right hand of the Obama figure.

Nearby, the words “Obama is Killing America” are printed on a trailer. So, it appears, the creepy Jones is returning the favor.

Here’s the picture itself:

Display in front yard of Dove World Outreach Center, Gainesville, FL (The Smoking Gun)

Setting aside the question of whether or not this constitutes a threat to the president’s life — something the Secret Service will no doubt look into, and probably decide it’s not — it’s true that the First Amendment means Jones can do this. But it’s also true that this is clearly a political message, and that runs counter to the DWOC’s tax-exempt status (since all tax-exempt institutions, religious or not, are precluded from engaging in politicking, as the price they must pay for that tax exemption). Folks around the Web have commented that the IRS will surely look into it, and take away their exemption. I doubt it will come to that, however; the IRS has only rarely done this to religious groups, so the odds are very much in Jones’s favor.

Rightists have also noted that Leftist outrage over this is misplaced and hypocritical, since just a few years ago, Leftist demonstrators hung G.W. Bush and Dick Cheney in effigy. While I’m sure Rightists find this kind of “two wrongs make a right” thinking emotionally satisfying, the real question here is whether or not Jones and his church did something they knew they shouldn’t have (i.e. engage in politicking). It’s pretty clear it wasn’t (and I’m saying that, even assuming the IRS will choose to do nothing about it). Rightists ought to exhibit more integrity than that.

Photo credits: Top, bbaunach, via Flickr; center, The Smoking Gun.

Hat tip: Mark at Skeptics & Heretics Forum on Delphi Forums.

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DSC00777Pastor John Hagee is the well-known pastor of Cornerstone Church in San Antonio. He’s a fire-&-brimstone megapreacher of the charismatic-fundamentalist sort. He also happens to be anti-Catholic, and despite being a vocal Christian Zionist, is also anti-Semitic. Yet, for reasons not well understood by observers of Christianity such as myself, he’s widely respected among the Religious Right, and Republican candidates fawn over him, knowing that R.R. voters will do whatever he tells them to without giving it a thought.

As one would expect, therefore, Hagee is also a militant Christianist, and a vehement and devoted Christian Nationer. Naturally, he subscribes to the idea that the United States exists only for Christians, and that others … especially atheists … need to leave. In fact, he stated this explicitly recently, as recorded on video and as reported by Right Wing Watch (WebCite cached version):

Tomorrow, June 6, will be the 68th anniversary of the D-Day invasion at Normandy and Pastor John Hagee used his sermon this past Sunday to reflect upon the sacrifices made on this day … and also to tell atheists to get out of America “if our belief in God offends you” because they are not wanted and won’t be missed while also calling on Congress to “outlaw the practice of witchcraft and Satanism in the US military, lest we offend the God of Heaven”

This video, in case you want to watch his ferocious sanctimonious delivery, is available on Youtube:

Oh how the poor little thing just can’t handle that those insidious and insolent atheists dare tread on his own personal and only-Christian domain, the United States! How awful it must be for him to have to put up with their presence … not to mention the presence of Satanists and witches in the military! Why, it’s an abomination that can’t be tolerated for one more second!!!!

Although I’m not a atheist, nor am I a Satanist or witch or warlock, I am nevertheless a committed non-believer, especially in Hagee’s dour, vicious and intolerant religion; so I’ll take Hagee up on his dare. Pastor Hagee, I dare you to come find me — the cold-hearted, skeptical, godless agnostic heathen that I am — and throw me out of your precious Christian country. If you are really as angry as you seem about the presence of atheists in your precious Christian nation, then you have absolutely no reason not to do so immediately. Come on. Do it. I won’t complain, and I won’t stop you. Just throw me out of your country.

If you refuse my challenge, that will only demonstrate you’re nothing but a pathetic, vile, cowardly little troll who can’t and won’t live up to his own stated ideals.

P.S. Again, I’m aware that RWW is an ideologically-driven site, but I’m using their story as a source since they provided primary-source material (i.e. the video).

Hat tip: Friendly Atheist.

Photo credit: The Jewish Agency for Israel, via Flickr.

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Pastor Charles Worley, via The AdvocateI blogged a couple days ago about the “loving” Christian pastor Charles Worley who wants all the country’s gays rounded up and imprisoned within an electric fence, so they can die off, thereby — according to his own reasoning — causing “gayness” to die out in the US. His congregants are defending him, however, as CNN reports, and are angry at the uproar this has caused (WebCite cached article):

Just about everyone here [in Maiden, NC] is talking about the local pastor who made national headlines this week after a video that features him telling congregants how to “get rid of” gays went viral. …

Some church members, who declined to give their names, defended their pastor, saying his words had been taken out of context. “He said he would feed them!” some church members told CNN, referring to the Worley’s idea for rounding up gays.

Worley “takes a real firm stand on the Bible and what it says about different things,” said church member Joe Heffner. “Whether I like it or not or whether anybody else likes it.”

Another church member, who declined to give his name, said that “Being gay and lesbian or homosexual is wrong according to the Bible… it’s Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.”

You can see some of their reactions in CNN’s video:

Whew! I’m so glad to hear that Pastor Worley doesn’t object to feeding the gays he’d put inside an electrified fence! Why, that makes imprisoning them there just fine! Doesn’t it?

I mean that sarcastically, of course. It is most assuredly not fine to imprison people for merely being gay … and feeding them while they’re imprisoned, in no way makes imprisoning them morally acceptable. Obviously, this defense of Pastor Worley is not going to fly. Not with me, anyway.

I note another defense these “loving” Christians are leaning on, which is that their pastor is just saying what the Bible says, so tough shit if you disagree. That also is a flawed argument. I admit the Bible does appear to condemn homosexuality. The problem is, what the Bible says, very often has little or nothing to do with how we actually do things. The Bible discusses slavery, too; in places the Old Testament prescribes slavery as necessary (e.g. Dt 20:14), and in the New, it orders slaves to be obedient and accept their fate (e.g. Eph 6:5). But although this is what the Bible says about it, we don’t have slavery any more. The Bible’s messages about slavery no longer have any meaning to us. It’s irrelevant.

The reality of life in this world, is that gays exist. They aren’t going to go away just because Christians find their gayness unacceptable. They aren’t going to kill themselves off because Christians want them gone. They’re human beings — every bit as human as the Christians who so vehemently despise them — and have the same human rights that they do. That’s just the way it is — “whether they like it or not,” as Worley’s follower Mr Heffner put it. They should grow up, suck it up, and live with it.

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MohlerPerhaps the most influential single theologian in the US is R. Albert Mohler. As the head of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, he’s the doctrinal custodian of the Southern Baptist Convention, and thus serves as one of the commandants of the Religious Right. I’m not sure why they thought they should do it, but CNN published his idiotic apologia for the Religious Right’s relentless war against gays (WebCite cached version):

Are conservative Christians hypocritical and selective when it comes to the Bible’s condemnation of homosexuality? With all that the Bible condemns, why the focus on gay sex and same-sex marriage?

Given the heated nature of our current debates, it’s a question conservative Christians have learned to expect. “Look,” we are told, “the Bible condemns eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics and any number of other things. Why do you ignore those things and insist that the Bible must be obeyed when it comes to sex?”

Unfortunately, despite having posed it, Al doesn’t actually answer this question. Rather, he rationalizes avoiding an answer altogether. I’ll let his dodges and swerves speak for themselves … if you can stomach reading it.

What I would like to point out, is that Al — even though he’s a strict Biblical literalist — factually lied about what the Bible says:

Some people then ask, “What about slavery and polygamy?” In the first place, the New Testament never commands slavery, and it prizes freedom and human dignity.

In reality, the New Testament most assuredly does support slavery. It does so more than once, in fact. Read on:

Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ; not by way of eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart. (Eph 6:5-6).

Slaves, in all things obey those who are your masters on earth, not with external service, as those who merely please men, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord. (Col 3:22)

I’m astonished that a supposed expert on the Bible such as Al Mohler would have said something as clearly and demonstrably untrue as this … but he did, nonetheless. Did he really think no one would notice his lie? Did he really think that people like myself, who have actually read the Bible (not only in English, but in other languages, including the original κοινη Greek of the New Testament), would not have been aware of this? Did he really think people are that fucking stupid? My guess is, he did think he’d get away with it — largely because he’s preaching to his own choir; other Southern Baptists would have taken him at his word and not questioned his statement. Regardless of his presumption of being able to get away with it, though, Al’s lie earns him entry into my “lying liars for Jesus” club.

It’s obvious by now that America’s Christofascists have to resort to lying about their own religion in order to support their hateful rhetoric. I’m not sure where in any of Jesus Christ’s own teachings they discovered the mandate to lie about him, but I’m sure they must have found it. Somewhere. I haven’t managed to find that chapter and verse, but Al and his cohorts must know what it is. I wonder if they’ll deign to divulge it to the rest of us “mere mortals”?

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Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, NC (from PRBC Web site)The Religious Right’s war on gays is definitely heating up, mainly due to president Barack Obama openly stating that he thinks gay marriage should be permitted in all 50 states. Of course, their outrage over the fact that gays exist, is nothing new. They’ve been lying about gays for years and have consistently campaigned to make them second-class citizens (or worse … if you assume they want to make women second-class citizens, then they must want gays to be “third-class” citizens).

At any rate, Obama’s announcement has unleashed their fury and they’ve doubled down on their sanctimonious rage against gays. For example, as Huff reports (based on Youtube video evidence), a pastor in North Carolina wants all gays in the U.S. killed off (WebCite cached article):

The barrage of anti-gay sermons delivered by North Carolina-based pastors to hit the blogosphere continues with yet another disturbing rant caught on tape.

The pastor, identified on YouTube as Charles L. Worley of Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, N.C., condemns President Obama’s much-publicized endorsement of same-sex marriage while calling for gays and lesbians to be put in an electrified pen and ultimately killed off.

“Build a great, big, large fence — 150 or 100 mile long — put all the lesbians in there,” Worley suggests in the clip, reportedly filmed on May 13.

The pastor’s remarks can be seen right here:

According to the good pastor, because gays “can’t” reproduce, once they’ve all been starved to death inside his massive pen, “gayness” itself will die out with them. Supposedly. I’m not sure that would actually work … but then, I’m just a vicious, Jesus-hating, cynical, godless agnostic heathen, so what could I possibly know about something this important?

I really hate to point this out — especially since I’ve complained about both the Right and the Left having made use of the distasteful propaganda device known as reductio ad Hitlerum — but what Pastor Worley advocates is shockingly similar to the Third Reich’s program of concentration camps. In fact, it’s just too damned similar for me not to take note of the similarity … even if that seems to contradict my own principles and runs me aground on Godwin’s Law.

Yes, folks … once again, we see “the Religion of Love” at work, showing its true colors to one and all. Isn’t it wonderful? I’m sure Jesus is proud of Pastor Worley.

P.S. I don’t normally use ideologically-driven sites like Huff as sources; but in this case a primary source (i.e. the Youtube video) was included with the story.

Hat tip: Mark at Skeptics & Heretics Forum on Delphi Forums.

Photo credit: Providence Road Baptist Church Web site.

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