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		<title>Gingrich Puts His Ignorance On Display</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Newt Gingrich, the former House Speaker and current GOP candidate for president, is surging in the polls. Part of the reason is that he&#8217;s been cultivating the Religious Right, which largely ignores the fact that he&#8217;s been married three times, having cheated on two of his wives, including while he was trying to get Bill [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/eliel/5009787577/" title="Map of Ottoman Empire in 1901 by Eliel, on Flickr"><img align="right" src="http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4085/5009787577_f52c537d66.jpg" width="260" alt="Map of Ottoman Empire in 1901"></a>Newt Gingrich, the former House Speaker and current GOP candidate for president, is surging in the polls. Part of the reason is that he&#8217;s been cultivating the Religious Right, which largely ignores the fact that he&#8217;s been married three times, having cheated on two of his wives, including while he was trying to get Bill Clinton <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/impeachment-of-bill-clinton" title="Impeachment of Bill Clinton (Answers.Com)">run out of the White House</a> for having had an affair.<strong><a href="#hyp-fn" title="Footnote">*</a></strong> As part of his effort to build his reputation as a dutifully and devoutly Christian Rightist, the Newtster decided to court <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-zionism" title="Christian Zionism (Answers.Com)">the Christian Zionist movement</a>. Unfortunately, the way in which he chose to go about it, demonstrates conclusively that he&#8217;s a brazen ignoramus. <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57340513-503544/newt-gingrich-palestinians-are-invented-people/" title="CBS News / Newt Gingrich: Palestinians are 'invented' people">CBS News reports on his idiotic spew</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/63rg8OWjm" title="WebCite cached article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich said this week that Palestinians are an &#8220;invented&#8221; people, a position that could be seen as putting him at odds with the U.S. push for a two-state solution in the Middle East.
<p>&#8220;Remember, there was no Palestine as a state. It was part of the Ottoman Empire,&#8221; Gingrich told the Jewish Channel, which <a href="http://newsdesk.tjctv.com/2011/12/the-jewish-channel-exclusive-interview-with-gop-front-runner-and-former-speaker-of-the-house-newt-gingrich/" title="Jewish Channel / The Jewish Channel Exclusive Interview With GOP Front-Runner and former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich">posted portions of the interview online on Friday</a> [<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/63rhuhwl1" title="WebCite cached version of Jewish Channel article">cached</a>]. &#8220;And I think that we&#8217;ve have invented the Palestinian people, who are in fact Arabs and are historically part of the Arab community, and they had the chance to go many places.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s video of <a href="http://youtu.be/dHWJWJocD6A" title="Youtube / The Jewish Channel Exclusive Interview With Newt Gingrich Excerpt: 'Invented Palestinian People'">this part of the interview</a>, courtesy of the Jewish Channel and Youtube:
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<p>His criterion for what makes the Palestinian people &#8220;invented&#8221; and therefore ineligible to have their own state &#8212; i.e. that their land once had been part of the <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/ottoman-empire" title="Ottoman Empire (Answers.Com)">Ottoman Empire</a> &#8212; is more than a bit strange. After all, many countries that exist now, and have existed for a very long time, were also once part of the Ottoman Empire. Most of the Balkan states, for example, had once been under the Ottoman regime. The same goes for countries like Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Egypt, Tunisia, Armenia and even Hungary &#8230; just to name a few. By the standards the Newtster has laid down, these nations are <em>all</em> &#8220;invented peoples,&#8221; and none are entitled to statehood.
<p>In spite of his error, Gingrich is far too ideologically-driven (and too desperate to hold onto Christian Zionist primary voters) to admit his error. <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57340910-503544/gingrich-sticks-by-comment-calling-palestinians-invented-people/" title="CBS News / Gingrich sticks by comment calling Palestinians 'invented' people">He maintains he&#8217;s factually correct</a>, even though quite obviously he&#8217;s not (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/63rgyDOSv" title="WebCite cached article">cached</a>).
<p>Yes folks, even though he&#8217;s a history professor, Newt Gingrich doesn&#8217;t actually know anything about history. I only have a B.A. in the field, yet I know how catastrophically wrong the man is. His lie about the Palestinian situation places him in <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/" title="Posts tagged 'lying liars for Jesus'">my &#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>.
<p>One last thing: During the interview, Newt says:<br />
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<p>And for a variety of political reasons we have sustained this war against Israel since the 1940s.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have no idea who this &#8220;we&#8221; is that the Newtster claims has been waging a &#8220;war against Israel&#8221; all that time. Is he referring to the US? Somehow I doubt it, but I can&#8217;t imagine who else that &#8220;we&#8221; could possibly be.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/eliel/5009787577/" title="Eliel, via Flickr"><strong>Eliel</strong></a>.
<p>*<a name="hyp-fn"></a>&nbsp;The R.R.&#8217;s fondness for hypocrisy is well-known, but is strange, considering <a href="http://earlychristianhistory.info/extras/hypocrisy.html" title="Early Christian History / Extras / Hypocrisy in Christianity">the founder of their own religion clearly, explicitly, plainly and specifically <em>forbid</em> his followers</a> to be hypocritical, ever.</p>
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		<title>Rick Perry Says Obama Is Waging A &#8220;War On Religion&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 03:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Militant Christianist, Texas governor and GOP presidential candidate Rick Perry has released a commercial for his failing campaign. In an effort to get the media talking about him again after he flamed out in recent debates, he&#8217;s decided to wade into Christian-persecution territory, and as CNN reports, is making the bullshit claim that current President [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/help-help-im-being-repressed.jpg"><img align="right" src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/help-help-im-being-repressed-300x197.jpg" alt="Help! Help! I'm being repressed! (Dennis the constitutional peasant, Monty Python &amp; the Holy Grail)" title="Help! Help! I'm being repressed! (Dennis the constitutional peasant, Monty Python &amp; the Holy Grail)" width="260" class="size-medium wp-image-5416" /></a>Militant Christianist, Texas governor and GOP presidential candidate Rick Perry has released a commercial for his failing campaign. In an effort to get the media talking about him again after <a href="http://youtu.be/kTNjhcyx7dM?hd=1" title="Embarrassing Catastrophic Moment for Rick Perry- Forgets What He Wants To Say At Presidential (Youtube)">he flamed out in recent debates</a>, he&#8217;s decided to wade into <a href="http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/extras/martyr.html" title="Early Christian History / Extras / Christian Martyr Complex">Christian-persecution territory</a>, <a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/07/new-perry-ad-derides-obamas-war-on-religion/" title="CNN / New Perry ad derides Obama's 'war on religion'">and as CNN reports, is making the bullshit claim</a> that current President Barack Obama is at war with religion (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/63lgIwdAb" title="WebCite cached version of CNN article">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Rick Perry says that if he&#8217;s elected president, he&#8217;ll end what he calls President Barack Obama&#8217;s &#8220;war on religion.&#8221;
<p>Perry makes the comments in a new TV commercial that&#8217;s sure to create controversy. &#8230;
<p>In an interview Wednesday with CNN&#8217;s Wolf Blitzer, Perry said he stood by the ad.
<p>&#8220;The administration is clearly sending messages to people of faith, and organizations of faith, that we&#8217;re not going to support you with federal dollars,&#8221; Perry said. &#8220;I&#8217;m very comfortable with that ad, for one thing. My faith is a part of me, and the values I learned in my Christian upbringing will affect my governing.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>You see, Christofascists like Perry have a strange definition of &#8220;persecution.&#8221; The president failing to obey the strictures of their metaphysics &#8212; you see &#8212; is an &#8220;attack&#8221; on them, and a &#8220;war&#8221; on their religion. To fail to obey them, is the virtual equivalent of a <em>physical attack</em> on their persons, and is also equivalent to an effort to abolish their faith.
<p>Of course, nothing could be further from the truth &#8230; but in his raging paranoia, Rickie-boy doesn&#8217;t understand that.
<p>Here, Rickie. Let me help you out. A <em>true</em> &#8220;war on religion&#8221; would include any of the following:
<ul>
<li>Churches being shuttered</li>
<li>Bibles removed from homes</li>
<li>Religious art being confiscated</li>
<li>Clergy being jailed</li>
<li>Crucifixes and crosses being seized</li>
<li>Arresting people for praying</li>
<li>And so on; you get the idea.</li>
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<p>President Obama is doing <em>none</em> of these things &#8212; not one of them! &#8212; and will <em>never</em> do so. For you to talk as though he is, Rickie-boy, is the worst sort of lie. It&#8217;s flatly untrue and it&#8217;s ridiculous for you to say it.
<p>Neverthless, I expect the Rickster will get a lot of traction out of this. The Religious Right in the US more or less believes exactly as he does &#8230; i.e. that refusing to obey their beliefs is the same as trying to utterly destroy them. Rickie-boy&#8217;s lies about Obama place him force me to list Perry as a member of <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/" title="Posts tagged 'lying liars for Jesus'">my &#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>.
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		<title>Religious Rightists Completely Ignorant Of History</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Religious Right is relentless in its determination to rewrite history so as to place themselves &#8212; and their current political causes &#8212; back in time, even though most of their efforts, such as promoting Creationism and stopping abortion, are all decidedly contemporary notions. Their anachronistic views reveal their ignorance and expose them as liars. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Double_Facepalm.png"><img align="right" src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Double_Facepalm.png" alt="When the Fail is so strong, one Facepalm is not enough / Picard &amp; Riker / based on HaHaStop.Com" title="When the Fail is so strong, one Facepalm is not enough / Picard &amp; Riker / based on HaHaStop.Com" width="260" height="208" class="size-full wp-image-4343" /></a>The Religious Right is relentless in its determination to rewrite history so as to place themselves &#8212; and their current political causes &#8212; back in time, even though most of their efforts, such as promoting Creationism and stopping abortion, are all decidedly <em>contemporary</em> notions. Their anachronistic views reveal their ignorance and expose them as liars. Two recent examples of this phenomenon follow, although they&#8217;re hardly unique.
<p>First, I&#8217;m sure you heard about Sarah Palin&#8217;s NRA-propagandized version of <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/paul-revere">Paul Revere</a>&#8216;s ride to warn the Massachusetts militia about the movement of British troops; Here, for example, is <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/07/ap/tech/main20069916.shtml">a CBS News story on her lies, which were compounded by a Wikipedia war</a> to make it appear she was actually correct (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5zOVDJYep">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Dozens of changes were made to the Revere page on the Internet site Sunday and Monday after Palin claimed Revere&#8217;s famous ride was intended to warn both his fellow colonists and British soldiers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Palin claimed, among other things, that Revere had been trying to &#8220;warn the British&#8221;; that he was firing shots into the air as he rode; and that he was ringing bells as well. Not one of those things is true, at least not in the Charlton Heston style that Palin told it. While he did end up warning the British about the militia, that was only <em>after</em> he&#8217;d warned the colonials &#8212; who&#8217;d been the intended targets of his warning ride &#8212; and had been picked up by British troops.  By then, the cat was already out of the bag, so to speak, so he was able to tell them little of any value (and they eventually let him go). He absolutely <em>did not</em> fire his musket into the air as he went; secrecy had been his goal, he needed to warn John Hancock and Samuel Adams that the British were on their way to arrest them. (Not to mention, loading and shooting a musket while on horseback is not exactly a simple feat.) Revere also <em>did not</em> ring bells as he rode, for the same reason.
<p><a href="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/06/sarah-palin/was-trash-talking-british-part-paul-reveres-ride/">Politifact</a> and <a href="http://factcheck.org/2011/06/palins-twist-on-paul-revere/">FactCheck</a> have weighed in on her idiotic and anachronistic comments. The best either of them can say is that Palin was &#8220;barely truthful&#8221; &#8230; and that&#8217;s being generous.
<p>Even after caught lying, and putting NRA words into Paul Revere&#8217;s mouth, Mrs Palin irrationally insisted she was correct. That also is quite in line with Religious Right practice; no Religious Rightist <em>ever</em> concedes error. Ever. Not for any reason, no matter the facts, and no matter how idiotic they sound. Hence, the campaign by her supporters to make Wikipedia back up her version of Paul Revere&#8217;s ride.
<p>My second example of the Religious Right&#8217;s ignorance of, and lies about, history is from David Barton, the man whom the R.R. hails as a historian, when in fact, <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2011/04/28/religious-rights-favorite-historian-is-no-historian/">he is not, and never has been</a> a historian (either by virtue of having a degree in history or having published an article in a peer-reviewed history journal). <a href="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/barton-founding-fathers-were-against-teaching-evolution-american-revolution-was-fought-slave">Right Wing Watch reports (video included) on his claim that the Founding Fathers supported Creationism</a> and dismissed evolution (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5zOVK3Z2Y">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Naturally, Barton says that the Founding Fathers “already had the entire debate on creation and evolution,” and sided with Creationism.</p></blockquote>
<p>The problem with this, of course, is that evolution wasn&#8217;t really known until the publication of <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/the-origin-of-species"><em>On the Origin of Species</em></a> in 1859, nearly a century after them. The liar Barton went on to make an even more absurd and factually-incorrect claim:<br />
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<p>“That’s why we said we want to separate from Britain, so we can end slavery,” Barton said.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, folks, according to <em>pseudo</em>historian Barton, the Revolutionary War was fought not to gain independence from Great Britain, but to free the slaves! The problem here, of course, is that the Constitution those same Founding Fathers wrote after that war, contained provisions allowing for slavery in the new country, and slavery wasn&#8217;t abolished until the end of the Civil War, again, decades later.
<p>I have no idea what it is that Palin or Barton are smoking. But they&#8217;re hardly alone. The R.R. continuously represents itself as modern-day Founding Fathers, even though the R.R. is predicated on a form of fundamentalist, evangelical Christianity that did not exist in the F.F.s&#8217; time. They apparently just can&#8217;t help themselves. In any event, whatever their motives might be, Palin and Barton&#8217;s lies place them squarely in <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">my &#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>.
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/laurilebo/4736/david_barton%3A_creationist_founding_fathers_settled_debate_over_evolution/"><strong>Religion Dispatches</strong></a>.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2011/03/18/more-religionists-use-earthquake-tsunami-as-fodder/double_facepalm/">Based on <strong>HaHaStop.Com</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>Ten Commandments Idolatry Coming To Louisiana</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve blogged a couple of times on the phenomenon of militant Christians promoting Ten Commandments idolatry. This time it&#8217;s happening in the great religionist state of Louisiana, as the Times-Picayune of New Orleans reports (WebCite cached article): A resolution calling for House and Senate members to support the concept of a Ten Commandments monument on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/abbyladybug/2152179077/" title="Ten Commandments with Hebrew Numbering (read the description for an explanation of why) by abbyladybug, on Flickr"><img align="right" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2379/2152179077_5a863b93e2.jpg" width="260" alt="Ten Commandments with Hebrew Numbering (read the description for an explanation of why)"></a><a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2011/04/17/more-decalogue-worship-in-washington/">I&#8217;ve blogged</a> a <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/03/22/congressman-wants-ten-commandments-week/">couple of times</a> on the phenomenon of militant Christians promoting Ten Commandments idolatry. This time it&#8217;s happening in the great religionist state of Louisiana, <a href="http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/05/senate_committee_passes_legisl.html">as the <em>Times-Picayune</em> of New Orleans reports</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5z1IgcFC9">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>A resolution calling for House and Senate members to support the concept of a Ten Commandments monument on Capitol grounds cleared a Senate committee without objection Wednesday and now goes before the entire Senate.
<p><a href="http://www.legis.state.la.us/billdata/streamdocument.asp?did=744169">Senate Concurrent Resolution 16</a> [<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5z1IlkEaz">cached</a>] by Sen. Mike Walsworth, R-West Monroe, approved after more than 40 minutes of debate by the Senate Committee on Senate and Governmental Affairs, would direct the governor&#8217;s Division of Administration to find a location for the monument, to be paid for with private funds.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course this is an example of a state forcing religion onto its citizens. That fact is not changed by the transparent contrivance of private funds paying for it; in the end, the monument is going up <em>at the direction of Louisiana state government</em>, so there&#8217;s no logical way anyone can say it&#8217;s anything but a government action.
<p>This monument&#8217;s promoters are also trying to envelop it in a veneer of &#8220;historicity&#8221;:<br />
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<p>&#8220;The Ten Commandments is where laws first began,&#8221; Walsworth said. &#8220;This (Capitol) is where the laws of Louisiana are made each and every year. &#8230; This is more of an historical thing.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately for these Christofascists, <em>it is absolutely, 100% <strong>not</strong> true</em> that &#8220;laws began with the Ten Commandments.&#8221; Not even close! Legal systems predate the appearance of the Decalogue by millennia. Yes &#8230; that&#8217;s <em>by <strong>millennia</strong></em>! The Decalogue as we know it dates to about the middle of the last millennium BCE; but the ancient <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/sumer">Sumerians</a> had written law codes by the middle of the 3rd millennium BCE, and those in turn were based on a tradition of legal decisions which were documented for at least several centuries prior to that. The Sumerian king <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/ur-nammu">Ur-Nammu</a> (who lived in the 21st century BCE) and the Babylonian king <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/hammurabi">Hammurabi</a> (who lived in the 18th century BCE) were both famous for having promulgated widely-influential law codes. And other peoples of the region, including the Egyptians, also had law-codes of their own, likewise dating centuries or millennia prior to the Ten Commandments. What&#8217;s more, the content of the Decalogue isn&#8217;t even innovative; admonitions against theft, murder, and lying in court, for example, are all part of these earlier law codes.
<p>This places Walsworth into my <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">&#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>.
<p>Yet another problem with any Decalogue monument, is which list of the Ten Commandments is posted on it. Most believers are not aware of this, but <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/ten-commandments#Division_according_to_different_religions">there are <em>several</em> ways in which the Ten Commandments have been enumerated</a> over the centuries. Judaism has its own list; Catholics have theirs; Protestants have one of their own (with a few variations among denominations); and so too do the Orthodox churches. Any single list of the Ten Commandments will, therefore, inevitably be <em>sectarian</em> in nature, favoring one Decalogue tradition &#8212; and therefore one religion or denomination &#8212; over the rest. It can&#8217;t be any other way.
<p>I&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2011/04/17/more-decalogue-worship-in-washington/">previously</a> referred to the movement to build Decalogue monuments as &#8220;idolatry,&#8221; and it quite obviously is that. But I don&#8217;t expect proponents of these religionist monstrosities to see it that way. They&#8217;re doing it for Jesus, you see, so it just can&#8217;t be idolatry &#8230; by definition! This is, of course, very <em>wrong</em>. Idolatrous behavior is idolatrous behavior, without regard to the reasons one engages in it. Not only is the construction of Decalogue monuments idolatry &#8212; <em>explicitly <strong>forbidden</strong> to <strong>all</strong> Christians</em>, under all conditions &#8212; it&#8217;s also <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/12/19/christmas-and-public-displays-of-piety/">a form of public piety</a>, which is likewise <em>explicitly <strong>forbidden</strong> to <strong>all</strong> Christians</em>, under all circumstances.
<p>If there are any Christofascists out there who, nevertheless, still think Decalogue monuments are godly, and that I, as an American, am required to worship them just as they do, I invite you to do whatever you wish <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/a-non-believers-manifesto/">in order to make that happen</a>. Force me to bow and scrape before your monument. <em>I dare you</em> to try it, by any means you wish. <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/a-non-believers-manifesto/">Go ahead. Make me.</a> If you&#8217;re so sure it&#8217;s what your precious Jesus wants, why would you <em>not</em> do everything in your power to make it happen?
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/abbyladybug/2152179077/"><strong>abbyladybug</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>Religious Right&#8217;s Favorite Historian Is No Historian!</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Barton is popular among the Religious Right, at the moment. He&#8217;s a Christofascist&#8217;s Christofascist, happy to tell Chrisitianists around the country that the US was originally founded as the Christocracy they think it should be &#8230; even though it absolutely and demonstrably was not. He&#8217;s a pet historian for militant Christians of all stripes, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://atheism.about.com/od/religiousright/ig/Christian-Propaganda-Posters/One-Nation-Under-God.--3V.htm"><img align="right" src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/UnderGod01.jpg" alt="One Nation, Under God: America is a Christian Nation" title="One Nation, Under God: America is a Christian Nation" width="220" class="size-full wp-image-4601" /></a><a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/david-barton-author">David Barton</a> is popular among the Religious Right, at the moment. He&#8217;s a Christofascist&#8217;s Christofascist, happy to tell Chrisitianists around the country that the US was originally founded as the <a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm">Christocracy</a> they think <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/dominionism">it should be</a> &#8230; even though <a href="http://www.freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Was_the_United_States_founded_on_Christianity%3F">it absolutely and demonstrably was <em>not</em></a>. He&#8217;s a pet historian for militant Christians of all stripes, from Glenn Beck to Newt Gingrich to Mike Huckabee. The mass media are even enamored of him, because he&#8217;s always good for a sound bite or two. <a href="http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/04/david-barton-gingrich-bachmann-huckabee"><em>Mother Jones</em> offers this story about Barton and the hard-on the Right has</a> for him (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5yI6edvum">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Newt Gingrich is a fan. So&#8217;s Michele Bachmann. Mike Huckabee&#8217;s such a booster that he recently said that all Americans should be &#8220;forced at gunpoint&#8221; to listen to this guy.
<p>The object of this high praise from Huckabee &#8212; and recent shout-outs from other potential GOP presidential contenders &#8212; is David Barton, a Republican activist and minister who founded WallBuilders, a for-profit evangelical outfit that works to inject religion into politics. Barton holds some pretty unconventional views, and in the past he has spoken alongside fringe figures like Holocaust deniers and white supremacists. Among other things, he claims that Jesus would oppose the capital gains tax and the minimum wage; that global warming is &#8220;self-correcting&#8221;; and that the nation&#8217;s homeland security apparatus has been infiltrated by members of the Muslim Brotherhood. He also contends that the separation of church and state is a perversion of the Founding Fathers&#8217; intention to create a Christian nation.</p></blockquote>
<p>Pretty much every reference to Barton that I&#8217;ve seen in the mass media &#8212; whether it&#8217;s a quote from some angry theocrat, or if it&#8217;s the reporter him/herself &#8212; calls Barton a &#8220;historian.&#8221;
<p>The trouble is, he isn&#8217;t one.
<p>That&#8217;s right, folks. The Religious Right&#8217;s favorite historian, is not a historian at all! He&#8217;s not even close to being a historian.
<p>Barton&#8217;s only <em>bona fide</em> academic degree <a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BLNTKPQiZQAJ:www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-rodda/the-idiocy-of-texas-and-t_b_237163.html+david+barton+christian+americans+adopting+slaves&#038;cd=4&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;gl=us">is a B.A. in religious education from Oral Roberts University</a> (class of &#8217;76). Barton has <em>absolutely no credentials</em> in the field of history. Not one. Not even so much as a vague whiff of one.
<p>I expect Rightists to make a big deal out of Barton and to mispresent him. Of course they&#8217;re going to call him a &#8220;historian,&#8221; if the &#8220;history&#8221; he spews is a steaming load of fierce militant Christianism and he&#8217;s no historian at all. I understand Rightists lying about him. But folks in the mass media have no reasonable excuse for misstating Barton&#8217;s credentials. They probably refer to Barton as a &#8220;historian&#8221; simply because the Right calls him one and they cannot be bothered looking at his C.V. to see if he truly is one. But as someone who <em>did</em> earn a B.A. in history, I am incensed that this lie continues to be propagated.
<p>Barton, and all of his sanctimonious fans who call him a &#8220;historian,&#8221; are now members of <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">my &#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>. (If they weren&#8217;t members already &#8230; a lot of them are.)
<p>Oh, and Mr Barton &#8212; and any other like-minded Christianists: If you think that, as an American, I am <em>required</em> to become the kind of Christian you are, then <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/a-non-believers-manifesto/">I invite you to use whatever means you wish to <em>make me</em> convert</a>. Go ahead. I dare you! Do you have the courage to give it your best shot? If you truly think I&#8217;m required to worship your Jesus, why would you not do everything in your power to make me do so?
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://forums.delphiforums.com/AntiBible/messages?msg=2290.1"><strong>Peter at Skeptics &amp; Heretics Forum</strong> at Delphi Forums</a>.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://atheism.about.com/od/religiousright/ig/Christian-Propaganda-Posters/One-Nation-Under-God.--3V.htm"><strong>Austin Cline, Licensed to About</strong></a>; Original Poster: <a href="http://atheism.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&#038;zTi=1&#038;sdn=atheism&#038;cdn=religion&#038;tm=470&#038;f=22&#038;tt=33&#038;bt=1&#038;bts=1&#038;zu=http%3A//fax.libs.uga.edu/wwpost/">University of Georgia</a>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The drums of the vast armies of Christofascism in the US are beating incessantly, and their forces are on the march. In skirmish after skirmish, they&#8217;re gaining victories around the country. The latest of these came in the Tennessee legislature, whose House approved a law that would teach religion in that state&#8217;s science classes. CBS [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://atheism.about.com/od/religiousright/ig/Christian-Propaganda-Posters/Evolution-Darwinism-Schools.htm"><img align="right" alt="Evolution &#038; Darwinism in Schools: Teaching Evolution &#038; Darwinism Encourages Immoral, Bestial Behavior (Image © Austin Cline, Licensed to About; Original Poster: Library of Congress)" src="http://0.tqn.com/d/atheism/1/7/X/2/3/EvolutionDarwinism.jpg" title="Evolution &#038; Darwinism in Schools: Teaching Evolution &#038; Darwinism Encourages Immoral, Bestial Behavior (Image © Austin Cline, Licensed to About; Original Poster: Library of Congress)" width="220" height="282" /></a>The drums of the vast armies of Christofascism in the US are beating incessantly, and their forces are on the march. In skirmish after skirmish, they&#8217;re gaining victories around the country. The latest of these came in the Tennessee legislature, whose House approved a law that would teach religion in that state&#8217;s science classes. <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20052007-501465.html">CBS News reports on this religionist</a> debacle (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5xsOVStlF">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Tennessee&#8217;s Republican-dominated House of Representatives has overwhelmingly passed a bill that would protect teachers who want to challenge the theory of human evolution.
<p>Thursday&#8217;s 70-28 passage of <a href="http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/107/Bill/HB0368.pdf">HB 368</a> [<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5xsP5FigN">cached</a>] was hailed by sponsor Rep. Bill Dunn, R-Knoxville, who said the proposal was designed to promote &#8220;critical thinking&#8221; in science classes.</p></blockquote>
<p>It will be a cold day in hell before any Religious Rightist like Dunn ever truly gives a flying fuck about &#8220;critical thinking.&#8221; His promotion of this bill shows he has no comprehension of what &#8220;critical thinking&#8221; is.
<p>The truth of the matter is this: TN HB 368 is NOT &#8212; and never was &#8212; about &#8220;critical thinking&#8221; at all. Religiofascists don&#8217;t like or want &#8220;critical thinking.&#8221; They demand, instead, &#8220;rigid dogmatic thinking,&#8221; and unwavering thralldom to their unbending, irrational metaphysics.
<p>Rep. Dunn&#8217;s claim to be concerned about &#8220;critical thinking&#8221; is a lie, and that places him in <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">my &#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>.
<p>For anyone who&#8217;s not yet clear on this, &#8220;intelligent design&#8221; and its various relatives are all just variations on Creationism. It was none other than an evangelical Christian federal appellate judge &#8212; appointed by George W. Bush himself &#8212; <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/program.html">who declared &#8220;intelligent design&#8221; a sham</a>, a transparent cover for Creationism, in <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/kitzmiller-v-dover-area-school-district"><em>Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District</em> (2005)</a>. Prior to that, the US Supreme Court had ruled that Creationism was effectively a religion and is therefore forbidden in public schools, in <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/edwards-v-aguillard"><em>Edwards v. Aguillard</em> (1987)</a>, and subsequently that evolution by contrast is <em>not</em> a religion, in <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/peloza-v-capistrano-school-district"><em>Peloza v. Capistrano School District</em> (1994)</a>.
<p>It&#8217;s time for America&#8217;s religionists to grow up and get over the fact that science is not theirs to control. Evolution <em>is</em> science, at the moment, so that&#8217;s what should be taught in science classes. Period. End of discussion.
<p>One final note for any other religiofascists out there who think they can force their religion on public school kids in the name of promoting &#8220;critical thinking&#8221;: To paraphrase V.P. candidate Lloyd Bentsen&#8217;s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senator,_you're_no_Jack_Kennedy">famous quip</a>, I know Critical Thinking; Critical Thinking is a friend of mine. You don&#8217;t know what Critical Thinking is.
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://forums.delphiforums.com/skepticheretic/messages?msg=1419.1"><strong>Mark at Skeptics &amp; Heretics Forum</strong> at Delphi Forums</a>.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://atheism.about.com/od/religiousright/ig/Christian-Propaganda-Posters/Evolution-Darwinism-Schools.htm"><strong>Austin Cline / About.Com</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>Christofascist Wants &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; Everywhere</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 03:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The march of the Christofascists continues apace. They&#8217;re steadily working to force their religion on the country, because after all, they&#8217;ve defined this as a &#8220;Christian nation,&#8221; and non-Christians aren&#8217;t allowed here. The latest example of militant Christianism is Virginia Congressman J. Randy Forbes, who wants &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; slapped on every public edifice [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://atheism.about.com/od/religiousright/ig/Christian-Propaganda-Posters/God-Bless-America-Christians.htm"><img alt="God Bless America: Ja!" src="http://0.tqn.com/d/atheism/1/7/v/-/3/God-Bless-America-e.jpg" align="right" title="God Bless America: Ja!" width="220" height="320" /></a>The march of the Christofascists continues apace. They&#8217;re steadily working to force their religion on the country, because after all, they&#8217;ve defined this as a &#8220;Christian nation,&#8221; <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2011/03/17/students-order-non-christians-to-leave-giles-county/">and non-Christians aren&#8217;t allowed here</a>. The latest example of militant Christianism is Virginia Congressman J. Randy Forbes, who wants &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; slapped on every public edifice in the country. <a href="http://hamptonroads.com/2011/03/forbes-god-we-trust-bill-sent-full-house">The <em>Virginian-Pilot</em> reports on his effort to use the government</a> to proselytize (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5xMgm6MAE">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>U.S. Rep. Randy Forbes&#8217; bill to reaffirm &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; as the national motto and encourage its display in all public schools was approved by a House committee Thursday after a sharp partisan debate. &#8230;
<p>Forbes said the legislation is needed to combat a concerted effort by some to drive all references to God out of public institutions.
<p>&#8220;There has been a chilling effect where schoolchildren, school districts, where individuals in federal buildings didn&#8217;t know if they could post &#8216;In God We Trust&#8217; on their walls,&#8221; Forbes said.</p></blockquote>
<p>Congressman, you lie when you say people are being prevented from posting &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; on their walls. They are most certainly able to do so &#8230; on the walls of their homes and their churches. They can do so to their hearts&#8217; content; no one can possibly stop them, and in fact, no one is even dreaming of stopping them.
<p>The fact is that religion is not being outlawed in the US; it will not be outlawed in the US; and there is no effort underway to outlaw it in the US. It doesn&#8217;t exist, even though Forbes says it does. Thus, I&#8217;m adding the Congressman to <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">my &#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>.
<p>I&#8217;m aware that Forbes and every other Christofascist demands that every American trust in their god. It&#8217;s very important to them &#8230; because <a href="http://www.skepdic.com/comreinf.html">communal reinforcement</a> is the only way they can feel secure about their irrational and baseless beliefs. Well, Congressman Forbes, if you want me to trust in your god, <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/a-non-believers-manifesto/">you&#8217;re just going to have to <em>make me</em> trust him</a>. Come on. <em>I dare you!</em> Make me trust your deity. You have nothing to lose by trying, so why wouldn&#8217;t you?
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/display.asp?webtag=skepticheretic&#038;msg=1386.1"><strong>Mark at Skeptics &amp; Heretics Forum</strong> at Delphi Forums</a>.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://atheism.about.com/od/religiousright/ig/Christian-Propaganda-Posters/God-Bless-America-Christians.htm"><strong>About.Com / Austin Cline</strong></a> (based on Nazi propaganda).</p>
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		<title>Osteen Judges, But Says He&#8217;s Not Judging</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 03:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Megachurch pastor Joel Osteen recently made an incongruous claim, during an interview on Piers Morgan&#8217;s new show on CNN. CNN described his laughable equivocation in his own words (WebCite cached article): Well, it&#8217;s strictly back to what the scripture says. I mean, I can&#8217;t grab one part and say God wants you to be blessed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title='By JGHowes at en.wikipedia [Public domain], from Wikimedia Commons' href='http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Joel_Osteen_at_Lakewood_Church.JPG'><img align='right' width='225' alt='Joel Osteen at Lakewood Church' src='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Joel_Osteen_at_Lakewood_Church.JPG/256px-Joel_Osteen_at_Lakewood_Church.JPG'/></a>Megachurch pastor Joel Osteen recently made an incongruous claim, during an interview on Piers Morgan&#8217;s new show on CNN. <a href="http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/24/pastor-joel-osteen-homosexuality-is-a-sin-elton-john-is-a-sinner/">CNN described his laughable equivocation</a> in his own words (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5wA77P2Va">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Well, it&#8217;s strictly back to what the scripture says. I mean, I can&#8217;t grab one part and say God wants you to be blessed and live an abundant life, and not grab the other part that says, you know what? You know, live that kind of life. So it comes back to the scripture. I&#8217;m not the judge. You know, God didn&#8217;t tell me to go around judging everybody.</p></blockquote>
<p>There it is. Osteen is judging gays to be sinners, but then states that he&#8217;s not judging anyone.
<p>Fucking hilarious. Or at least it <em>would</em> be, if Osteen weren&#8217;t rationalizing treating a whole class of people as lesser human beings by virtue of their how they were born.
<p>Of course, this is not Osteen&#8217;s only incongruity. He&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/prosperity-theology">&#8220;prosperity gospel&#8221;</a> preacher who thinks Christians are entitled to be &#8212; and in fact <em>should</em> be &#8212; millionaires &#8230; even though the founder of his religion explicitly and unambiguously <em>condemned</em> being wealthy:<br />
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<p>&#8220;Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal; for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.&#8221; (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206:19-21&#038;version=NASB">Matthew 6:19-21</a>)
<p>&#8220;Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.&#8221; (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2019:24&#038;version=NASB">Matthew 19:24</a>)
<p>&#8220;It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.&#8221; (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2010:25&#038;version=NASB">Mark 10:25</a>)
<p>&#8220;But woe to you who are rich, for you are receiving your comfort in full.&#8221; (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%206:24&#038;version=NASB">Luke 6:24</a>)
<p>&#8220;For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.&#8221; (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2018:25&#038;version=NASB">Luke 18:25</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>By claiming not to judge others when he is, in fact, judging others, and by preaching that amassing wealth is what Jesus wants his followers to do, when in fact, Jesus stated the opposite, Osteen is engaging that time-honored Christian tradition known as &#8220;hypocrisy&#8221; &#8212; and that, too, is in spite of <a href="http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/extras/hypocrisy.html">Jesus&#8217; own words clearly telling his followers</a> never to be hypocritical.
<p>Oh, and because he lied when he said he wasn&#8217;t judging others, I&#8217;m putting Osteen into <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">my &#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Joel_Osteen_at_Lakewood_Church.JPG"><strong>Wikimedia Commons</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>Ten Commandments Erected In Giles County Schools</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christofascists in Giles county, Virginia have decided that they need not obey the Constitution, and are putting up copies of the Ten Commandments in its public schools. A mob of them showed up at a school board meeting and forced them to reverse a superintendent&#8217;s earlier decision not to do so. The Roanoke (VA) Times [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TorchesAndPitchforks"><img align="right" src="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/torches_and_pitchforks.jpg" alt="The peasants are - well, you know! (via TV Tropes)" title="The peasants are - well, you know! (via TV Tropes)" width="240" class="size-full wp-image-4676" /></a>Christofascists in Giles county, Virginia have decided that they need not obey the Constitution, and are putting up copies of the Ten Commandments in its public schools. A mob of them showed up at a school board meeting and forced them to reverse a superintendent&#8217;s earlier decision not to do so. <a href="http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/wb/274441">The <em>Roanoke</em> (VA) <em>Times</em> reports about this &#8220;peasants with pitchforks&#8221;</a> moment (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5vveGlLcB">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>The Ten Commandments will hang in public schools, the Giles County School Board unanimously decided Thursday afternoon despite the school district attorney&#8217;s recommendation and precedent from the U.S. Supreme Court. &#8230;
<p>More than 200 county residents packed the school board meeting room and adjacent hallway Thursday afternoon, and a half-dozen parents and pastors told the board to honor God and continue to teach children that the United States is &#8220;one nation, under God&#8221; with the commandments.
<p>&#8220;You have a moral obligation to what is right,&#8221; Elwood Lambert of Narrows said to the board. &#8220;Do not let our future children be deprived of this right &#8212; a God-given right.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This meeting was turned into a tent-revival-style event:<br />
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<p>The crowd clapped and cheered, and many answered &#8220;Amen.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This Christofascist went on to make a ridiculous accusation:<br />
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<p>[Giles County Board of Supervisors Chairman Eric] Gentry told the school board to fight &#8220;hate groups,&#8221; such as the American Civil Liberties Union, which often takes on First Amendment legal battles, and keep the posters in schools.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is because not wanting Christians to force their religion on everyone, particularly school children, is an expression of deep, abiding &#8220;hatred&#8221; of Christians. Why, it&#8217;s only one step short of going out and killing them!
<p>Yes, people <em>really do</em> think that way. It&#8217;s childish, of course, but that doesn&#8217;t stop them from keeping this sanctimonious belief.<P>Ironically, a whole raft of Christian outfits <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/12/03/religious-right-organizations-labeled-hate-groups/">were recently labeled as &#8220;hate groups&#8221;</a> &#8230; and more objectively so.
<p>For calling the ACLU and similar organizations &#8220;hate groups,&#8221; I&#8217;m putting Gentry in <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">my &#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>. Way to go, dude!
<p>If anyone thought that militant Christianism is on the wane in the US &#8230; well &#8230; here&#8217;s your evidence to the contrary.
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://friendlyatheist.com/2011/01/21/ten-commandments-go-up-in-giles-county-virginia-schools/"><strong>Friendly Atheist</strong> blog</a>.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TorchesAndPitchforks"><strong>TV Tropes</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>Alabama Governor Says Only Christians His &#8220;Brothers &amp; Sisters&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a bid to promote himself as a dutiful general in the armies of the Religious Right, Alabama&#8217;s now-governor Robert Bentley declared that &#8212; while he is decidedly color-blind, he is most assuredly not belief-blind. The Birmingham News reports on his blanket disavowal of non-Christians (WebCite cached article): Gov.-elect Robert Bentley in a speech at [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/gop_candidate_robert_bentley_s.html"><img align="right" alt="Robert Bentley, running for the GOP nomination for governor, on 10/13/2009 says he'll push for a statewide abortion ban. (Press-Register / Kate Mercer)" src="http://media.al.com/live/photo/robert-bentley-96a88d2655d73b85_large.jpg" title="Robert Bentley, running for the GOP nomination for governor, on 10/13/2009 says he'll push for a statewide abortion ban. (Press-Register / Kate Mercer)" width="260" height="184" /></a>In a bid to promote himself as a dutiful general in the armies of the Religious Right, Alabama&#8217;s now-governor Robert Bentley declared that &#8212; while he is decidedly color-blind, he is most assuredly <em>not</em> belief-blind. <a href="http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2011/01/gov-elect_robert_bentley_inten.html">The <em>Birmingham News</em> reports on his blanket disavowal of</a> non-Christians (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5vpyFrTor">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Gov.-elect Robert Bentley in a speech at a Baptist church this afternoon said he plans to be the governor of all Alabamians and be color-blind, but he also said people who aren&#8217;t &#8221;saved&#8221; Christians aren&#8217;t his brothers and sisters. &#8230;
<p>&#8220;There may be some people here today who do not have living within them the Holy Spirit,&#8221; Bentley said. &#8221;But if you have been adopted in God&#8217;s family like I have, and like you have if you&#8217;re a Christian and if you&#8217;re saved, and the Holy Spirit lives within you just like the Holy Spirit lives within me, then you know what that makes? It makes you and me brothers. And it makes you and me brother and sister.&#8221;
<p>Bentley added, &#8221;Now I will have to say that, if we don&#8217;t have the same daddy, we&#8217;re not brothers and sisters. So anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I&#8217;m telling you, you&#8217;re not my brother and you&#8217;re not my sister, and I want to be your brother.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Rather incredibly, Bentley later claimed not to have wanted to insult or offend anyone and does not think he did so:<br />
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<p>Asked later if he meant to be insulting to people of other faiths, Bentley replied, &#8221;We&#8217;re not trying to insult anybody.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This is complete bullshit. <em>Of course</em> he intended to &#8220;insult&#8221; non-Christians! <em>Of course</em> he <em>knew</em> his comments would be offensive to them! <em>Absolutely</em> he knew <em>exactly</em> what he was doing &#8230; which was to ingratiate himself to the teeming masses of militant, angry, atheist-hating, Bible-thumping, God-praising, Christianists who make up the majority of Alabama. There&#8217;s no other explanation for this, and anything else he or his spokesman may say, can <em>only</em> be <em>a <strong>lie</strong></em>. This makes Gov. Bentley (who was sworn in to office yesterday the 17th) the latest member of <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">my &#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>.
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://forums.delphiforums.com/religionforum/messages?msg=2867.1"><strong>Lordrag at iReligion Forum</strong> on Delphi Forums</a>.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/gop_candidate_robert_bentley_s.html"><strong><em>Press-Register</em> / Kate Mercer</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>More Lies About Christmas From The Religious Right</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 22:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the more militant of the many Christofascists in Congress, South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint, spewed another lie about Christmas. Politico reports it as part of his juvenile bellyaching about how horrible it was that Congress dared hold a lame-duck session before the holiday, which apparently he finds personally inconvenient (WebCite cached article): &#8220;You [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/huntthewumpus/2621678702/" title="St. Leonard's Church, Horringer-cum-Ickworth, Suffolk by wumpus, on Flickr"><img align="right" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/2621678702_0dea1173f3.jpg" width="240" height="360" alt="St. Leonard's Church, Horringer-cum-Ickworth, Suffolk" /></a>One of the more militant of the many Christofascists in Congress, South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint, spewed another lie about Christmas. <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1210/46422.html#ixzz18DbOlcZ4">Politico reports it as part of his juvenile bellyaching about how horrible it was</a> that Congress dared hold a lame-duck session before the holiday, which apparently he finds personally inconvenient (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5v0Hg208Y">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>&#8220;You can&#8217;t jam a major arms control treaty right before Christmas,&#8221; [DeMint] told POLITICO. &#8220;What&#8217;s going on here is just wrong. This is the most sacred holiday for Christians.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>DeMint is not correct when he says Christmas is &#8220;the most sacred holiday for Christians.&#8221; Everyone with even half a brain knows that the true most sacred Christian holiday is Easter.
<p>That&#8217;s right, Senator. Easter &#8212; not Christmas &#8212; is the most sacred day, for Christians. Don&#8217;t just take my word for it, either &#8230; have a look, for example, <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/holidays/">at this <em>Christianity Today</em> page on holidays</a>, which says (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5v0IEZhCr">cached</a>):<br />
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<p>Celebrate Christianity&#8217;s most sacred holiday with us! Our Easter section features ChristianityToday.com&#8217;s best articles and resources on the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ.</p></blockquote>
<p>I get that DeMint is upset that he&#8217;s being forced to attend a Senate session, when he&#8217;d rather be home in South Carolina, cooking up new ways to force his Christianity on the rest of the country. But too bad for him. He needs to man up and do the job he signed up for, back when he campaigned for the Senate. And he needs to stop lying in order to support his childish wishes.
<p>That DeMint lied about the sanctity of Easter places him in <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">my &#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>. I&#8217;ve also added this particular lie to <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/myths-about-christmas-in-the-u-s/">my page on myths about Christmas</a> that are commonly told in the US.
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/danielschultz/3912/jim_demint_says_lame-duck_session_before_christmas_is_%22sacrilegious%22/"><strong>Religion Dispatches</strong></a>.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/huntthewumpus/2621678702/"><strong>wumpus</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>Tax Money To Be Spent On Noah&#8217;s Ark</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 22:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a time when the Religious Right is screaming to high heaven over government spending of any sort, there&#8217;s one project not one of them is speaking up about. A Noah&#8217;s Ark theme park is going to be built in Kentucky, with the assistance of commonwealth tax abatements. The New York Times reports on the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonnyandanne/3336763218/" title="Noah's Ark finds dry land by JonnyBaird, on Flickr"><img align="right" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3385/3336763218_4903c7fdde.jpg" width="200" height="299" alt="Noah's Ark finds dry land" /></a>In a time when the Religious Right is screaming to high heaven over government spending of any sort, there&#8217;s one project not one of them is speaking up about. A Noah&#8217;s Ark theme park is going to be built in Kentucky, with the assistance of commonwealth tax abatements. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/us/06ark.html">The <em>New York Times</em> reports on the Kentucky government&#8217;s latest</a> proselytization effort (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5umdj2BN3">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Facing a rising tide of joblessness, the governor of Kentucky has found one solution: build an ark.
<p>The state has promised generous tax incentives to a group of entrepreneurs who plan to construct a full-size replica of Noah’s ark, load it with animals and actors, and make it the centerpiece of a Bible-based tourist attraction called Ark Encounter.</p></blockquote>
<p>The project&#8217;s main proponent doesn&#8217;t give a shit about the &#8220;separation of church and state&#8221; issues inherent in this, even though they&#8217;re obvious to everyone else:<br />
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<p>Since Gov. Steven L. Beshear announced the plan on Wednesday, some constitutional experts have raised alarms over whether government backing for an enterprise that promotes religion violates the First Amendment’s requirement of separation of church and state. But Mr. Beshear, a Democrat, said the arrangement posed no constitutional problem, and brushed off questions about his stand on creationism.
<p>“The people of Kentucky didn’t elect me governor to debate religion,” he said at a news conference. “They elected me governor to create jobs.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, Governor, they <em>didn&#8217;t</em> elect you governor in order to create jobs at any cost. They elected you to perform the job of governor, and that job requires you to live within the boundaries of the Constitution.
<p>You remember the Constitution, don&#8217;t you? You Rightists are always yammering and howling about it. Well &#8212; try <em>obeying it</em> for once. OK?
<p>Beshear&#8217;s lie that this is not an example of Kentucky promoting religion, places him in <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">my &#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>. Congratulations on finding yourself in such glorious, <em>pious</em> company, Governor!
<p>(Yes, I&#8217;m aware Beshear is a Democrat, and he might once have been liberal to some degree, but he typically does things according to the Religious Right&#8217;s whims, so as far as I&#8217;m concerned, he&#8217;s a definite Rightist.)
<p>The group behind this project, by the way, is <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/answers-in-genesis">Answers in Genesis</a>. They&#8217;re the people who previously brought you the laughable Creation Museum, and who also have claimed that <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2009/04/16/believe-%E2%80%94-or-die/">non-believing teens are all murderous sociopaths</a>, eager for a chance to grab some firearms and blow away everyone else. Yeah, they&#8217;re a wonderful bunch, too.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonnyandanne/3336763218/"><strong>JonnyBaird</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>Glenn Beck Still Delusionally Wrong</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 23:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After his pledge to destroy Jim Wallis over the issue of Christianity and &#8220;social justice&#8221; fizzled like old ginger ale, Glenn Beck has decided to take on another one of his old foes: George Soros. Soros, you see, leads a &#8220;shadow government&#8221; in the US and has been the puppet master of the country for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gageskidmore/4392734883/" title="Glenn Beck by Gage Skidmore, on Flickr"><img align="right" src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/4392734883_0eccd9dc9e_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="Glenn Beck" /></a>After <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/03/20/glenn-beck-takes-on-jim-wallis/">his pledge to destroy Jim Wallis</a> over the issue of Christianity and &#8220;social justice&#8221; fizzled like old ginger ale, Glenn Beck has decided to take on another one of his old foes: <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/george-soros">George Soros</a>. Soros, you see, leads a &#8220;shadow government&#8221; in the US and has been the puppet master of the country for years. He&#8217;s a Communist who rules the Democratic Party, and now the country, with an iron fist. (Forget for a moment that, for long stretches during the 80s, 90s, and 00s, we&#8217;ve had Republicans in charge &#8212; at various times and in various combinations, including all three at once &#8212; of the House, the Senate, and the White House. So it&#8217;s pretty hard to see how the Democratic Party&#8217;s &#8220;puppet master&#8221; could have been running the country for so long.) He recently ran what he considers an expos&eacute; of Soros, which, <a href="http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/12/glenn-beck-sees-george-soros-as-iran-does/">as the <em>New York Times</em> Lede blog revealed, included some stretches of the truth as well as</a> some outright lies (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5uDfnwNcL">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p> In his indictment of Mr. Soros this week, what Mr. Beck did not say about the list of governments he claimed the philanthropist had helped to topple was striking. Before naming America as Mr. Soros’s next “target,” Mr. Beck ominously intoned:<br />
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<p>Soros has helped fund the ‘Velvet Revolution’ in the Czech Republic, the “Orange Revolution” in the Ukraine, the “Rose Revolution” in Georgia. He also helped to engineer coups in Slovakia, Croatia and Yugoslavia.</p></blockquote>
<p>What Mr. Beck failed to mention is that in each of the countries he named, Mr. Soros in fact provided support to popular pro-democracy groups battling repressive regimes led by Communist or former Communist autocrats. The Fox host also seemed confused about some of the events he described in those nations.
<p>To start with, the mass street protests led by the Czech playwright Vaclav Havel in 1989 that brought down Prague’s Communist regime took place in what was still Czechoslovakia, not the Czech Republic, which did not exist at the time.
<p>There were also no coups in Slovakia, Croatia or Yugoslavia. Slovakia was created by the so-called “<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/04/business/global/04slovakia.html">velvet divorce</a>” [<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5uDhw018N">cached</a>], the peaceful dissolution of the federal state of Czechoslovakia by democratically-elected leaders in 1993; Croatia’s wartime president, Franjo Tudjman, an authoritarian former Communist general, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/1999/12/11/world/tudjman-is-dead-croat-led-country-out-of-yugoslavia.html">died in office</a> [<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5uDhyXYLS">cached</a>] in 1999 and was replaced by a former member of his party after a democratic election; Slobodan Milosevic, the Yugoslav leader who was most responsible for the brutal campaign of ethnic cleansing that killed tens of thousands in Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2000/10/07/world/showdown-yugoslavia-overview-milosevic-concedes-his-defeat-yugoslavs-celebrate.html">resigned in 2000</a> [<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5uDi1tMol">cached</a>], following street protests after his loss in a democratic election.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thus, if one looked only at Soros&#8217;s activities during the late 80s and early 90s, one would have to assume him to have been a vehement anti-communist, rather than the devout Marxist Beckie-boy tells us he is.
<p>And while it is true that George Soros does bankroll a lot of Democratic Party operations and Leftist groups, the <em>Times</em> shows he doesn&#8217;t leave the Right untouched by his money:<br />
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<p>The Fox News host also made no mention in his program of the fact — first reported by Justin Elliott of Salon on Friday — that Mr. Soros has paid more than $150,000 to Randy Scheunemann, a Republican lobbyist who is a senior adviser to Sarah Palin, to press Congress and the White House to keep sanctions in place against Myanmar’s military junta and promote a resolution “calling for the immediate and unconditional release of Daw Aung San Suu Kyi,” whose party won the last free elections held in the country.</p></blockquote>
<p>The <em>Times</em> goes on to say that Beckie-boy&#8217;s rhetoric is eerily similar to that of the Islamofascist regime of Iran:<br />
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<p>Oddly, Mr. Beck’s conspiratorial reading of the recent history of Eastern Europe puts him in complete agreement with Iran’s intelligence ministry, which for years has been working to discredit the country’s reformist leaders and their calls for fair elections as the puppets of foreign plotters. &#8230;
<p>Mr. Khatami called the allegation absurd, but, as The Lede explained in a post on “<a href="http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/irans-fear-of-a-velvet-revolution/">Iran’s Fear of a ‘Velvet Revolution’</a>” [<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5uDhHvHQ8">cached</a>], Iran’s intelligence service seems to be obsessed with Mr. Soros.</p></blockquote>
<p>What&#8217;s more, other commenters on Beckie-boy&#8217;s &#8220;expos&eacute;&#8221; of Soros have noted more than a whiff of anti-Semitism within it, among <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-11-10/glenn-becks-anti-semitic-attack-on-george-soros/">them Michelle Goldberg at the Daily Beast</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5uDh3JQrV">cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Anti-Semitism, like all ideologies, tells a story about the world. It’s a story about almost occult Jewish power, about cabals that manipulate world events for their own gain. In classic anti-Semitic narratives, Jews control both the elites and the masses; they’re responsible for the communist revolution and the speculative excesses of capitalism. Their goal is to undermine society so that they can take over. &#8230;
<p>If you know this history, you’ll understand why Glenn Beck’s two-part “expos&eacute;” on George Soros, whom Beck calls “The Puppet Master,” was so shocking, even by Beck’s degraded standards. The program, which aired Tuesday and Wednesday, was a symphony of anti-Semitic dog-whistles. &#8230;
<p>Soros, a billionaire financier and patron of liberal causes, has long been an object of hatred on the right. But Beck went beyond demonizing him; he cast him as the protagonist in an updated Protocols of the Elders of Zion. He described Soros as the most powerful man on earth, the creator of a “shadow government” that manipulates regimes and currencies for its own enrichment. Obama is his “puppet,” Beck says. Soros has even “infiltrated the churches.” He foments social unrest and economic distress so he can bring down governments, all for his own financial gain. “Four times before,” Beck warned. “We’ll be number five.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, for the record, I do not believe Glenn Beck is an anti-Semite. And that&#8217;s not just because I believe Fox News&#8217;s denials of it, or because Beck claims he&#8217;s a supporter of Israel. No, it&#8217;s because I think he hates Soros so vehemently and so passionately, that he will stoop to nothing, including using <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/the-protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion"><em>Protocols of the Elders of Zion</em></a>-type claims against him, in his campaign to destroy Soros. He&#8217;s so driven by hatred, that he simply doesn&#8217;t care that he&#8217;s using traditional anti-Semitic rhetoric against a Jewish survivor of the Third Reich.
<p>Two final points: I&#8217;m not a fan of George Soros myself. He supports the ideological Left too much for my taste; I consider Americans&#8217; thralldom to ideology of any sort to be counter-productive if not dangerous, and Soros is as responsible for this as anyone else at the moment.
<p>And lastly &#8230; I&#8217;d like to point out that Glenn Beck, and the &#8220;Tea Party&#8221; movement of which he is a core part, is itself <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all">the product of secretive ideological philanthropists</a>; David and Charles Koch, to be exact (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5uDiPWe6z">cached article</a>). Beck is very much an officer in their army, if not its Field Marshall. Presumably he has no problem with the Koch brothers&#8217; own large, &#8220;shadow&#8221; ideological apparatus (seen as how Beckie happily does their bidding); yet he points an accusing finger at another ideological philanthropist. How dare he! What a fucking hypocrite. Glennie, haven&#8217;t you read your Bible recently? You must have missed the parts of it where <a href="http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/extras/hypocrisy.html">your own Jesus instructed you <em>never</em> to be hypocritical</a> &#8230; ever &#8230; not for any reason. He said it clearly, unambiguously, and offered <em>no</em> caveats or exceptions to this rule. Christians such as yourself, Glenn, <a href="http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/extras/hypocrisy.html"><em>must <strong>never</strong></em> be hypocritical</a>. That&#8217;s just the way it is.
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/sarahposner/3727/fox_makes_mockery_of_promise_to_rein_in_beck%27s_anti-semitism_/"><strong>Religion Dispatches</strong></a>.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gageskidmore/4392734883/"><strong>Gage Skidmore</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>War On Christmas 2010, Part 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 01:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here it is, not even the middle of November yet, and already I&#8217;m typing my first entry in the annual edition of the &#8220;war on Christmas.&#8221; The militant Christian organization which calls itself the Liberty Counsel has released a list of stores they&#8217;re ordering Christians not to buy from, because they don&#8217;t mention &#8220;Christmas&#8221; often [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/silas216/1562425515/" title="war on christmas by silas216, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2401/1562425515_3ea814d0d6_m.jpg" width="240" height="180" alt="war on christmas" align="right" /></a>Here it is, not even the middle of November yet, and already I&#8217;m typing my first entry in the annual edition of <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/war-on-christmas/">the &#8220;war on Christmas.&#8221;</a> The militant Christian organization which calls itself the <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/liberty-counsel">Liberty Counsel</a> has released a list of stores they&#8217;re ordering Christians not to buy from, because they don&#8217;t mention &#8220;Christmas&#8221; often enough in their holiday advertising (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5uAmV1CkV">WebCite cached article</a>).
<p>Ordinarily, this is the point in my post where I&#8217;d be quoting from their page &#8230; however, these Christofascists are too sickening and vile to quote. Besides, naming any of the businesses here will only grant additional voice to what they&#8217;re saying, and thus aid them in their struggle for publicity. I refuse to go along with it. If you want to know what they&#8217;re saying, you&#8217;ll just have to <a href="http://lc.org/index.cfm?PID=17981">go there</a> and find out.
<p>I&#8217;d just like to point out two things:
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<p>The Religious Right whines, annually, that there&#8217;s an effort underway to forbid people to say &#8220;Merry Christmas.&#8221; Supposedly it&#8217;s being made illegal &#8230; or something. Of course there is no such effort to outlaw &#8220;Merry Christmas,&#8221; <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/myths-about-christmas-in-the-u-s/">as I explain in my page on Christmas myths</a>, but militant Christians never let little things like &#8220;facts&#8221; prevent them from saying so. Here, though, we find the Religious Right <em>forcing</em> people to say &#8220;Merry Christmas&#8221; when &#8212; perhaps &#8212; they might not wish to. Fucking <em>hypocrites</em>. (Evidently these folk are not aware that <a href="http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/extras/hypocrisy.html">Jesus himself explicitly and unambiguously <em>forbid</em> his followers ever to be hypocritical</a>.)</li>
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<p>The group&#8217;s name, &#8220;Liberty Counsel,&#8221; is itself a lie, because these people <em>do not want</em> &#8220;liberty&#8221; in the US &#8212; at least not &#8220;<em>religious</em> liberty.&#8221; What they want is a US which is uniformly evangelical Christian, like themselves. They may tolerate other forms of Christianity, but want non-Christian religions outlawed, as well as irreligion. (Their use of this misnomer places them in <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">my &#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>.)</li>
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<p>At any rate, I&#8217;m glad to open <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/war-on-christmas-2010/">this annual series of posts</a> on Christmas. There&#8217;s nothing like <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/war-on-christmas/">a supposed &#8220;war on Christmas&#8221;</a> to bring out the height of stupidity and irrationality from the Religious Right and the hosts of Christian warriors who obey their every command.
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://friendlyatheist.com/2010/11/09/friend-or-foe-2010/">The <strong>Friendly Atheist</strong></a>.
<p>Photo credit: <strong><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/silas216/1562425515/">silas216</a></strong>.</p>
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		<title>Liberty University Fires Lying Preacher &#8230; Sort Of</title>
		<link>http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/06/26/liberty-university-fires-lying-preacher-sort-of/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 02:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a few months now, questions have swirled around Ergun Caner, the dean of theology at Liberty University, a college founded by the late Rev Jerry Falwell. He claimed to have originally been a devout Muslim, but converted to evangelical Christianity. For this he became relatively famous in fundamentalist Christian circles, going on the fundie-church [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.firstroanoke.com/vantagepoint/SpecialGuests.htm"><img alt="Ergun Caner, former Dean of theological seminary at Liberty University" src="http://www.firstroanoke.com/vantagepoint/images/DrErgunCaner.png" title="Ergun Caner, former Dean of theological seminary at Liberty University" width="175" height="263" align="right" /></a>For a few months now, questions have swirled around <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/ergun-caner">Ergun Caner</a>, the dean of theology at Liberty University, a college founded by the late Rev Jerry Falwell. He claimed to have originally been a devout Muslim, but converted to evangelical Christianity. For this he became relatively famous in fundamentalist Christian circles, going on the fundie-church lecture circuit around the country, especially after <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/september-11-attacks">September 11, 2001</a>. The fundies, you see, just <em>love</em> hearing about people who go from being a devout {something-other-than-Christian} to a devout Christian.
<p>In any event, the fundies in charge of Liberty University found they could no longer credibly ignore the controversy; they investigated Caner, and decided he&#8217;s out as head of their theology department. <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i96cPQE_WX5ctKCpHLWQyXPSnDaQD9GINCU80">The AP via Google News reports on their</a> decision (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5qmwVV6cL">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>A Baptist minister who toured the country to talk about his conversion from Islam to Christianity is no longer the dean of Liberty University&#8217;s theological seminary following allegations he fabricated or embellished facts about his past, the school said Friday.
<p>The university founded by Rev. Jerry Falwell said that a board of trustees committee concluded Ergun Caner made contradictory statements. Although it didn&#8217;t find evidence that he was not a Muslim who converted as a teenager, it did discover problems with dates, names and places he says he lived, a statement said.
<p>Caner will remain on the Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary faculty, but won&#8217;t be dean when his term expires on June 30.</p></blockquote>
<p>During the course of the controversy, when bloggers had just started discussing the conflicting and/or incorrect claims he&#8217;d made, Caner went around the Internet asking for information about him, or material by him, to be deleted. Unfortunately, covering one&#8217;s tracks on the Internet doesn&#8217;t work too well.
<p>Note that &#8212; in spite of Caner&#8217;s documented lying and dissembling, LU still couldn&#8217;t summon the courage to fire Caner completely or concede he&#8217;d never been a Muslim; they said, in a statement (<a href="http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0610/749644.html">courtesy of WSET-13</a>, Lynchburg VA; <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Following-Review-LU-Will-Replace-Dr.-Caner-as-DeanABC-13-20100626.png">locally cached version</a>):<br />
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<p>However, the committee found no evidence to suggest that Dr. Caner was not a Muslim who converted to Christianity as a teenager, but, instead, found discrepancies related to matters such as dates, names and places of residence. &#8230; Dr. Caner will remain on the faculty of Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary as a professor.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s the way it is with fundamentalist Christians &#8230; they may have their disagreements, and they may even have to admit wrongdoing on the part of one of their own, but &#8212; no matter what any of them might do &#8212; ultimately, they all stick together nonetheless.
<p>This sorry episode makes Ergun Caner another member of <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">my &#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>, and the directors of Liberty University gain honorary membership in it, for essentially being apologists for a lying liar for Jesus. Way to go guys!
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.firstroanoke.com/vantagepoint/SpecialGuests.htm">First Baptist Church Roanoke</a>.</p>
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		<title>Judge Stops Enfield Schools From Proselytizing</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 23:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About 6 weeks ago I blogged about Enfield (CT) Public Schools and their religionist determination to proselytize to high school graduates and their families by holding commencements for its two high schools in a church in nearby Bloomfield. As I expected, a federal judge has prevented this arrangement. The Hartford Courant reports on this decision [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:FirstCathedralPraise.JPG"><img alt="The First Cathedral, A Megachurch in Bloomfield Connecticut, during Sunday Morning Praise and Worship" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/FirstCathedralPraise.JPG/400px-FirstCathedralPraise.JPG" title="The First Cathedral, A Megachurch in Bloomfield Connecticut, during Sunday Morning Praise and Worship" width="200" height="300" align="right" /></a>About 6 weeks ago <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/04/14/enfield-ct-proselytizes-high-school-graduates/">I blogged about</a> Enfield (CT) Public Schools and their religionist determination to proselytize to high school graduates and their families by holding commencements for its two high schools in a church in nearby Bloomfield. As I expected, a federal judge has prevented this arrangement. <a href="http://www.courant.com/community/enfield/hc-enfield-graduations-decision-0601-20100531,0,5332327.story">The <em>Hartford Courant</em> reports on this</a> decision (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5q9BDxfne">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>A federal judge on Monday ruled that Enfield High School and Enrico Fermi High School will not be able to hold their graduation ceremonies at First Cathedral.
<p>U.S. District Court Judge Janet Hall heard closing arguments last week in a legal challenge that five Enfield residents — two high school seniors and three parents — filed to block the town from renting the 3,000-seat mega-church in neighboring Bloomfield. The graduations are scheduled for June 23 and 24.
<p>&#8220;By attempting to &#8216;neutralize&#8217; the First cathedral by covering up many (albeit not all) of its religious images, Enfield Public Schools unconstitutionally entangles itself with religion,&#8221; Hall wrote in her decision dated Monday. &#8220;And … by requiring a graduating senior — or parent of one — to enter First Cathedral in order to be able to participate in his or her graduation — or to watch their child graduate — Enfield Public Schools has coerced plaintiffs to support religion.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Although the <em>Courant</em> story discusses the religious imagery in First Cathedral, and inadequate attempts to cover it up, that isn&#8217;t the only problem cited. Another claim that Enfield Public Schools have made is that they cannot locate any alternative facilities for the same price; thus, by comparison, First Cathedral is their only available choice. <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/54040166.pdf">In her decision</a>, however, Judge Hall points out that the school board&#8217;s attempts to find alternatives were insincere:<br />
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<p>The Board’s evaluation of alternative venues in March and April 2010 does not appear to be an open-minded consideration of legitimate available alternatives. First Cathedral was never included in the written comparisons offered at either the March 23 or April 13, 2010 Board meetings, and the minutes of those meetings reflect no discussion as to First Cathedral’s actual price or amenities. Furthermore, the Board was aware that several locations offered similar accommodations for graduation ceremonies at a price less than the $32,000 budget. The rental fee for Symphony Hall, for example, totals $11,400 for both schools &#8212; a figure that is at least $5000 less than the rental fee charged by First Cathedral. Although the facility seats 2611 graduates and spectators would likely require Enfield Schools to limit each graduate to eight (8) tickets each, it was deemed “that should not be a huge issue.”
<p>Chairman Stokes noted that there were other ways in which Symphony Hall did not match First Cathedral in meeting particular criteria that the Board was looking for, but the Board never generated a concrete list of the precise criteria that needed to be met. Indeed, certain requirements that Chairman Stokes claims the Board believed a venue had to satisfy seem designed to eliminate First Cathedral’s competitors. During the May 24, 2010 hearing, for example, the court asked Stokes, “What size is a minimum size that you think makes a facility acceptable?” Chairman Stokes replied, “I think that being able to have unlimited seating where anybody can come in and celebrate with their families is probably where I have leaned to.” When the court inquired further and asked what constitutes “unlimited seating,” Stokes replied, “In this case here it is about 3000 seats.” First Cathedral’s seating capacity is 3000.</p></blockquote>
<p>Looks like the board&#8217;s putative &#8220;search for alternatives&#8221; was cleverly skewed so as to arrive at the predetermined result. This means it was not a genuine &#8220;search&#8221; and thus, by claiming to have actually &#8220;searched&#8221; for alternatives when they never intended to permit the graduation to be held anywhere else, Enfield Public Schools is guilty of disingenuity.
<p>This places them into my <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">&#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>.
<p>Something else that ought to be noted is that the chairman of the Enfield school board, Greg Stokes, is <a href="http://cornerstonechurch-ct.org/staff.php">the pastor of Cornerstone Church</a>, a Protestant evangelical church in East Windsor CT (just south of Enfield) (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5q9Byzyc2">cached version of page</a>). First Cathedral in Bloomfield is also &#8212; you guessed it! &#8212; <a href="http://www.firstcathedral.org/pages.asp?pageid=20857">a Protestant evangelical church</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5q9C8QREd">cached version of page</a>). I wonder, Pastor Stokes &#8230; could there possibly be a conflict of interest here? Maybe? Ya think? Hmm.
<p>Let&#8217;s see: Dishonesty, and failure to admit to an obvious conflict of interest &#8230; yep, Chairman Stokes has managed to live down to all my expectations of fundamentalist Christians. Way to go, Pastor Greg!
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:FirstCathedralPraise.JPG">Wikimedia Commons</a>.</p>
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		<title>Glenn Beck, Christianity, and &#8220;Social Justice&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The nation&#8217;s current most famous paranoid schizophrenic, Glenn Beck, has (no surprise!) shoved his foot into his mouth. The Intertubes have been alive with discussion of this, and I&#8217;d planned to avoid the matter, but since it&#8217;s become so well known, I thought I should weigh in on it anyway. On his radio show this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/22007612@N05/4393514042/" title="Glenn Beck" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4393514042_ff5e669e66_m.jpg" alt="Glenn Beck" border="0" align="right" /></a>The nation&#8217;s current most famous paranoid schizophrenic, Glenn Beck, has (no surprise!) shoved his foot into his mouth. The Intertubes have been alive with discussion of this, and I&#8217;d planned to avoid the matter, but since it&#8217;s become so well known, I thought I should weigh in on it anyway.
<p>On his radio show this March 2, Beck railed ignorantly &#8212; and stupidly &#8212; against churches that promote &#8220;social justice.&#8221; <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2010/marchweb-only/20-51.0.html"><em>Christianity Today</em> transcribed his comments</a> as follows (<a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Glenn-Beck-Leave-Your-Church-Christianity-Today-A-Magazine-of-Evangelical-Conviction-20100315.png">screen shot of page</a>):<br />
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<p>I beg you, look for the words &#8220;social justice&#8221; or &#8220;economic justice&#8221; on your church Web site. If you find it, run as fast as you can. Social justice and economic justice, they are code words. Now, am I advising people to leave their church? Yes! If I&#8217;m going to Jeremiah&#8217;s Wright&#8217;s church? Yes! Leave your church. Social justice and economic justice. They are code words. If you have a priest that is pushing social justice, go find another parish. Go alert your bishop and tell them, &#8220;Excuse me are you down with this whole social justice thing?&#8221; I don&#8217;t care what the church is. If it&#8217;s my church, I&#8217;m alerting the church authorities: &#8220;Excuse me, what&#8217;s this social justice thing?&#8221; And if they say, &#8220;Yeah, we&#8217;re all in that social justice thing,&#8221; I&#8217;m in the wrong place.</p></blockquote>
<p>Beck, of course, has no idea what he&#8217;s talking about &#8230; but his raging paranoia prevents him from understanding that. What he&#8217;s doing is to connect several things which are not, in the end, connected at all. Let&#8217;s tease them apart so that this matter can be truly understood.
<p>First, it is <em>incontrovertible</em> that Christianity and &#8220;social justice&#8221; <em>are</em> interconnected, and this is the case from almost the beginning of the movement. Jesus himself preached against the common social mores and presumptions of his time; he promoted charity &#8212; <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2012:41-44&#038;version=NASB"><em>true</em> charity</a>, not mere &#8220;charity for <em>appearance&#8217;s</em> sake,&#8221; <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206:2&#038;version=NASB">which he condemned utterly</a>; <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%209:9-13;%20Mark%202:14-22;%20Luke%205:27-38&#038;version=NASB">he associated with outcasts and undesirables</a>, actually <em>preferring</em> their company; <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2022:38-40&#038;version=NASB">he taught compassion for others as</a> one of the cardinal rules of spiritual life; <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt19:21;Luke12:33;%2018:22&#038;version=NASB">he condemned wealth and promoted giving everything to the poor</a>; and much more. Also, scripture itself suggests early Christian communities lived according to <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%204:32-35&#038;version=NASB">a very egalitarian, &#8220;one for all and all for one&#8221; ideal</a>, thus exhibiting a strong sense of &#8220;social justice&#8221; among themselves.
<p>Second, this message has not been completely lost on Christians themselves. The themes of compassion and &#8212; yes, Glenn! &#8212; &#8220;social justice&#8221; have been continually picked up and expounded upon by Christians, throughout the religion&#8217;s history. Classical-era Christians, for example, maintained funds to support orphans and widows. During the Middle Ages, some religious orders funded and ran infirmaries for the care of the sick, even when plagues were raging, thus exposing themselves to disease. Early strong proponents of the Abolition movement &#8212; such as <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/william-wilberforce">William Wilberforce</a> &#8212; were <em>devout</em> Christians whose motivation to free slaves was primarily a <em><strong>religious</strong> impulse</em> they believed to be part of Jesus&#8217; own message. Later &#8212; especially as it arrived in the United States in the 19th century &#8212; Abolition became more of a humanist movement, no longer innately connected to religion &#8230; however, Abolition&#8217;s origins clearly had at least some religious inspiration. Beck&#8217;s reasoning, had it been followed in the early 19th century, would have ground Abolition to a halt, and the U.S. would still have slavery.
<p>Third, Beck is correct that, at one time, phrases like &#8220;social justice&#8221; were, in fact, code-words used by Communists and Marxists. However, that was mostly true only during the Communist revolutions of the early and middle 20th century, and later during the Cold War. The fact is that this type of &#8220;coded&#8221; rhetoric has faded away since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Thus, any truthful basis Beck may have had for his comments are &#8212; at best &#8212; anachronistic. They make no sense today, since many different people, of many different ideologies, appeal to their own individual senses of &#8220;social justice.&#8221; One can no longer safely assume that any proponent of &#8220;social justice&#8221; is a Marxist.
<p>Fourth, Beck&#8217;s objection appears to be rooted in the <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/jeremiah-wright">Jeremiah Wright</a> controversy. By referring to Wright in his comments, Beck betrays his own childish hang-up on Barack Obama&#8217;s former pastor. Beckie, let me help you out here: Jeremiah Wright is now <em>a <strong>dead</strong> issue</em>. Obama has jettisoned him, and Wright is also done with Obama. This particular battle is <em>over</em>, Glenn, and has been for more than a year &#8230; at the very least, Obama&#8217;s election in November 2008 obviated it.
<p>This idiocy reveals several things about Glenn Beck. Most importantly, he envisions Christianity as being linked to politics &#8212; his own personal, extreme-Right-wing, give-everything-there-is-to-the-wealthy-and-take-every-penny-from-the-poor politics. He cannot, or <em>will not</em>, conceive of Christianity as not being related to politics. Any church which &#8212; in his mind &#8212; does not march in lockstep with his own ideology, is not a &#8220;true&#8221; <em>Christian</em> church. He does not realize that Jesus himself was apolitical and <em>did not</em>, at any point during his ministry, ever concern himself with politics or statecraft. If anything, <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2022:21;%20Mark%2012:17;%20Luke%2020:25&#038;version=NASB">he rather clearly stated the <em>opposite</em></a> &#8230; that not only was he unconcerned with statecraft, that his followers also should not be. Beck also reveals that he is still stuck in the past, still thinking in terms of the Cold War and still consumed with scandals which are now obsolete.
<p>Of note is the fact that a lot of Christians, and especially some of the Religious Right variety, have spoken out against Beck&#8217;s comments. For some examples, <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/WN/glenn-beck-social-justice-christians-rage-back-nazism/story?id=10085008">see this story by ABC News</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5oFZWbUXE">WebCite cached article</a>). Even the ferocious, fire-&amp;-brimstone Religious Right theologian <a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/2010/03/15/glenn-beck-social-justice-and-the-limits-of-public-discourse/">Albert Mohler has said Beck</a> is wrong (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5oFZiDmQZ">cached article</a>).
<p>This criticism &#8212; from within Christianity and even from within the Religious Right &#8212; has not been lost on Beckie boy. He has responded: By fighting back, and insisting &#8212; in spite of the facts &#8212; that he is still correct. He has declared &#8220;social justice&#8221; to be &#8220;a perversion of the gospel,&#8221; and justifies his (strange) view of Jesus&#8217; message as being about the individual, not the group. This twisted rationale has, itself, <a href="http://blog.sojo.net/2010/03/11/glenn-beck-responds-social-justice-is-a-perversion-of-the-gospel/">been condemned by the same people</a> who first criticized him (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5oFaMcKEX">cached article</a>). I will leave the debate about that up to those critics, who as Christian &#8220;insiders&#8221; have more to say on it than I do.
<p>Beck&#8217;s claim that &#8220;true&#8221; Christianity &#8212; as he sees it &#8212; has nothing to do with &#8220;social justice,&#8221; places him squarely in <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">my &#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>.
<p>The bottom line is that Beck&#8217;s initial condemnation of &#8220;social justice&#8221; in Christian churches &#8212; and his insistence, in spite of criticism by various Christian authorities &#8212; that he is still correct, as well as his refusal to let go of the Jeremiah Wright controversy show Beckie-boy to be a raging paranoid child. I suggest it&#8217;s long past time for the Beckster to grow up, and address his paranoia &#8230; <a href="http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/paranoid-schizophrenia/DS00862/DSECTION=treatments-and-drugs">there are good treatments for it</a>, and given the millions he makes, he can more than afford the very best psychiatric care available.
<p>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/22007612@N05/4393514042/" title="Gage Skidmore"><strong>Gage Skidmore</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>Are Handicaps God&#8217;s Punishment For Having Abortions?</title>
		<link>http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/02/25/are-handicaps-gods-punishment-for-having-abortions/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 01:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Birth defects, handicaps and disabilities are &#8212; according to the apparently-religionist Virginia Delegate (legislator) Robert G. Marshall &#8212; caused by mothers having had prior abortions. The Washington Post reports on his primeval, Old Testament-style thinking (WebCite cached article): Virginia Del. Robert G. Marshall apologized Monday to people with disabilities for remarks suggesting that women who [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Birth defects, handicaps and disabilities are &#8212; according to the apparently-religionist Virginia Delegate (legislator) Robert G. Marshall &#8212; caused by mothers having had prior abortions. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/22/AR2010022204512.html">The <em>Washington Post</em> reports on his primeval</a>, Old Testament-style thinking (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5nonoB9MG">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>Virginia Del. Robert G. Marshall apologized Monday to people with disabilities for remarks suggesting that women who have abortions risk having later children with birth defects as a punishment from God.
<p>Marshall (R-Prince William) made the comment Thursday at a news conference calling for an end to state funding to Planned Parenthood. &#8230;
<p>&#8220;The number of children who are born subsequent to a first abortion who have handicaps has increased dramatically. Why? Because when you abort the firstborn of any, nature takes its vengeance on the subsequent children,&#8221; Marshall said.
<p>&#8220;In the Old Testament, the firstborn of every being, animal and man, was dedicated to the Lord,&#8221; he added. &#8220;There&#8217;s a special punishment Christians would suggest &#8212; and with the knowledge that they have in faith, it&#8217;s been verified by a study from Virginia Commonwealth University &#8212; first abortions, of a first pregnancy, are much more damaging than later abortions.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>While it may seem Marshall&#8217;s point was scientifically supported, in fact, it was not:<br />
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<p>The VCU study he referred to was published in 2008 in the Journal of Epidemiology &#038; Community Health and suggested that there is a higher risk of premature birth and low birth weight in children born to women who have had an abortion.</p></blockquote>
<p>The study did not say anything about &#8220;handicaps.&#8221; It mentioned only low birth weight and premature birth. Thus, this study&#8217;s content actually had <em>nothing</em> to do with Marshall&#8217;s claim.
<p>Marshall has been veering away from these remarks since he said them, <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/22/AR2010022204512_2.html">as the <em>Post</em> explains</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5noo9cEuV">cached</a>):<br />
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<p>Marshall, appearing shaken by criticism gone viral, said his remarks had been shortened in some news reports and twisted out of context. &#8230;
<p>&#8220;No one who knows me or my record would imagine that I believe or intended to communicate such an offensive notion. I have devoted a generation of work to defending disabled and unwanted children, and have always maintained that they are special blessings to their parents. Nevertheless, I regret any misimpression my poorly chosen words may have created as to my deep commitment to fighting for these vulnerable children and their families.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Delegate, your words were in no way &#8220;taken out of context.&#8221; What you stated was that &#8220;handicaps&#8221; in subsequent children were a consequence of having had an abortion previously. Those are <em>your words</em>. The &#8220;context&#8221; does not change the meaning of those words. What the &#8220;context&#8221; also does not change is that the study you cited as support for your view, <em>did not</em> actually support it.
<p>Thus, Delegate, your complaint that you &#8220;were taken out of context,&#8221; and the fact that you claimed scientific support that you did not really have, makes you a <em>double</em> &#8220;lying liar for Jesus.&#8221; Welcome to <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">that club</a>.
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://www.religiondispatches.org/blog/2311/virginia_shakes_its_%22blues%22/"><strong>Religion Dispatches</strong></a> (which does a good job of explaining the errors in Marshall&#8217;s theology).</p>
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		<title>Robertson&#8217;s Ignorance Is Being Defended!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was, I suppose, inevitable that other Christians would finally begin defending the stupid and insulting comments by Marion &#8220;Pat&#8221; Robertson about the earthquake in Haiti, which I blogged about already. Other Christians cannot, apparently, simply let the man&#8217;s stupidity and ignorance go. Because he is a Christian and because he&#8217;s being criticized, they feel [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was, I suppose, inevitable that other Christians would finally begin defending the stupid and insulting comments by Marion &#8220;Pat&#8221; Robertson about the earthquake in Haiti, which <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2010/01/13/pat-robertson-hyperreligious-cretin/">I blogged about</a> already. Other Christians cannot, apparently, simply let the man&#8217;s stupidity and ignorance go. Because he is a Christian and because he&#8217;s being criticized, they feel compelled to defend the asshat. <a href="http://www.abpnews.com/content/view/4728/53/">This item comes from the Associated Baptist Press</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5mnoEJZFY">WebCite cached article</a>):<br />
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<p>As several religious leaders criticized Pat Robertson&#8217;s comments blaming Haiti&#8217;s massive Jan. 12 earthquake on a pact supposedly made by its people with the devil, one came out to defend him.
<p>Gary Cass, chairman and CEO of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission, issued a statement saying that while Robertson&#8217;s comments made him an &#8220;easy target&#8221; for criticism, they are essentially theologically sound.</p></blockquote>
<p>Cass believes the criticism Patty has been getting has nothing to do with the ignorant or hurtful nature of what he said, but merely because it made them uncomfortable:<br />
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<p>Cass suggested one reason Robertson&#8217;s message is so unpopular is that it forces people to face the spiritual dimension of their lives.
<p>&#8220;As long as everything is going well we live as if we are never going to die,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Then crisis hits and death slaps us in the face. Rather than humbling ourselves and searching our hearts like the Pilgrims did, we lash out at God and anyone who dares insinuate Him into our lives.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Cass goes on to explain how Robertson is correct:<br />
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<p>&#8220;A simple reading of the Bible shows how God uses natural disasters to further his purposes,&#8221; Cass said. &#8220;Earthquakes, floods, famine, locusts, etc. they&#8217;re all there, but man hates it. Rather than humbly acknowledging that God&#8217;s ways are not our ways, man rails against and accuses God. The last thing they will do is cry out for his mercy in Jesus Christ.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>On top of that, another, better-known theologian cited in this article, Albert Mohler, did criticize Robertson for saying what he said, but at the same time insisted his remarks were nevertheless sound, <a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5mnoEJZFY">as ABP goes on to report</a>:<br />
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<p>A Southern Baptist scholar faulted Robertson for &#8220;over-claiming&#8221; the meaning of a single event, but also affirmed his theology.
<p>&#8220;Do I believe that God punishes nations?&#8221; Albert Mohler, president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, said on his daily radio program Jan. 13 &#8220;You bet, the same way I know that judgment falls upon individuals.&#8221; &#8230;
<p>Mohler said Robertson &#8220;is absolutely correct in speaking about the sinfulness of the people of Haiti.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Almost unbelievably, Mohler goes on about Haiti&#8217;s &#8220;dark&#8221; nature:<br />
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<p>&#8220;There is no doubt that Haiti is a very dark place, where voodoo and all kinds of idolatry and all kinds of dark magic, all kinds of enslaving forms of religious belief are very prevalent,&#8221; Mohler said. &#8220;It is a dark place. It has been a dark place for a long time. The poverty there is not just because the nation started off as a rather impoverished nation, but because of the behavior pattern, beliefs, that have led to a society that has been virtually ungovernable for much of its history and really has embraced so much darkness.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>While this sounds obviously racist &#8230; and I have no idea how racist Mohler might be &#8230; he turns and tries to justify this statement by generalizing what he said:<br />
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<p>However, he said, Robertson could have said the same thing about every human in every country. &#8220;All of us are sinners,&#8221; Mohler said. &#8220;All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Apparently this statement justifies Mohler condemning just about any nation for just about any kind of immorality. Logically this means, of course, that Haiti is no better or worse than any other nation. In other words, his condemnation of Haiti as &#8220;a dark place&#8221; is basically meaningless, since every country is &#8220;a dark place.&#8221;
<p>If anyone by now believes the Religious Right and its various proponents &#8230; of whom Cass (a proteg&eacute; of the late militant dominionist D. James Kennedy) and Mohler (president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, which over the years has educated much of the R.R.) are high-ranking members &#8230; have anything even remotely valid to say, they&#8217;re <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/the-religious-right-is-insane/">as delusional and insane as the rest of the R.R.</a>.
<p>Lastly, by continuing to insist that Haiti is under a &#8220;curse,&#8221; based on an old legend that has never been verified, this makes both Cass and Mohler members of my <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">&#8220;lying liars for Jesus&#8221; club</a>.</p>
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		<title>Brit Hume Reveals Religious Ignorance</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brit Hume of Fox News offered some unsolicited advice to the beleaguered Tiger Woods &#8230; and in the process, revealed his ignorance of religion. The (NY) Daily News reports on his stupid comments: Fox News&#8217; Brit Hume irks Buddhists by wishing Tiger Woods convert to Christianity &#8212; for forgiveness Fox newsman Brit Hume is evangelizing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brit Hume of Fox News offered some unsolicited advice to the beleaguered Tiger Woods &#8230; and in the process, revealed his ignorance of religion. <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/01/04/2010-01-04_foxs_brit_hume_religion_advice_for_tiger_woods.html">The (NY) <em>Daily News</em> reports on his stupid comments</a>:<br />
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<h4><a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/01/04/2010-01-04_foxs_brit_hume_religion_advice_for_tiger_woods.html">Fox News&#8217; Brit Hume irks Buddhists by wishing Tiger Woods convert to Christianity &#8212; for forgiveness</a></h4>
<p>Fox newsman Brit Hume is evangelizing to Tiger Woods &#8212; and upsetting some peaceful Buddhists along the way.
<p>Hume, speaking on Fox News Sunday, said he wants the beleaguered golfer to convert to Christianity because he believes Buddhism leaves no place for the &#8220;redemption&#8221; Tiger needs.
<p>&#8220;Whether he can recover as a person I think is a very open question, and it&#8217;s a tragic situation with him,&#8221; Hume said.
<p>&#8220;The extent to which he can recover seems to me depends on his faith,&#8221; Hume continued. &#8220;He is said to be a Buddhist. I don&#8217;t think that faith offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith.&#8221;
<p>Hume said his message to Tiger would be, &#8220;Tiger, turn to the Christian faith and you can make a total recovery and be a great example to the world.&#8217;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Like most Christians, especially of the Religious Right sort, Hume has no clue how any religion other than his own works. I&#8217;m not a Buddhist myself, but even I know that the reality of Buddhism is that it has a great deal to say about <em>both</em> forgiveness <em>and</em> redemption. &#8220;Forgiveness&#8221; figures prominently in Buddhism, especially in that it helps ameliorate attachments. <a href="http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/forgiveness.htm">Here</a>, for example, is a Buddhist meditation on it. As for &#8220;redemption&#8221; in Buddhism, that is integral to one of the core principles of Buddhism, <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/nirvana">Nirvana</a>.
<p>As is typical of Christians, Hume assumes Christianity to be utterly unique &#8230; so much so that no principle it deals with can possibly be found in any other religion. Unfortunately this is erroneous.
<p>I&#8217;m fairly sure that Buddhism can find a better way to deal with the sin of adultery, in any event, than Christianity can. After all, the faithful <em>Christian</em>, Gov Mark Sanford of South Carolina suggested that, <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2009/06/27/the-bible-justifies-adultery/">if adultery was good enough for King David, it&#8217;s good enough for him</a>.
<p>Finally, Hume&#8217;s claim that Buddhism offers no forgiveness or redemption, and only Christianity does, places him in <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/tag/lying-liars-for-jesus/">my lying liars for Jesus club</a>.
<p>Update: <a href="http://www.religiondispatches.org/blog/mediaculture/2156/brit_hume_offends%2C_misses_the_tiger_woods_sex_boat/">Courtesy of Religion Dispatches</a>, here is a Youtube video of Brit Hume revealing his brazen ignorance &#8212; and as RD suggested it might be called, &#8220;Christian chauvinism&#8221; &#8212; to the planet:
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